… but it’s just a few bad apples. Most cops are very fine people.
Edit: /s Jesus
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I'm sorry, kinda hilarious that you had to add a sarcasm tag. And sad.
I was hopeful the two separate clues - “just a few bad apples” plus “very fine people on both sides” would be a banger. Maybe it was just too good.
Wanted a post-scarcity world but ended up with a post-satire one instead.
Nah it's because there are people who actually believe that shit so it's hard to gauge sarcasm.
It's a lot like how people make jokes about landlords. A lot of the people are being sarcastic but there's enough of them that are serious that you can't really tell the difference.
This goes so hard. I'd love this on a shirt
The only good advertising I've ever seen
The original intent of that metaphor is correct in your use, but it’s rarely recognized. It began as “a rotten apple quickly infects its neighbor.” Over time, it became “one bad apple ruins the bunch.” Now it’s used as just “one bad apple” to infer minimal or selective corruption, completely discrediting the point of the analogy.
It's also worth noting the implication of the full phrase. If you remove the bad apples quickly enough, then you can save the rest. If you can remove the corrupt elements, then you can protect the group overall. If you leave them to fester then you'll have a lot more cutting required to clean up.
Absolutely. Also very applicable to OP’s point.
It's kind of ironic that you had to add the /s since most people never think to finish the adage.
A few bad apples spoil the bunch
Like "pull yourself up by your bootstraps", its full meaning has been cut off in order to support the opposite point.
... they fine just a few people. But most apples are bad cops.
most apples are bad cops.
Lawsuit incoming from Golden Delicious PD
Can we take a second to appreciate that those hands were drawn very well? Like, most times I draw a hand, it just ends up looking like a stupid blob, but this poster has gotten the shape and proportions pretty decently. And not just once, but twice. Good.
And the shading is excellent as well!
Even worse. The police has both the authority and the budget to:
- Test candidates before they hire them as cops.
- Train their cops.
- Discipline the violent cops.
Protest organizers can't do these things. Anyone who wants to join the protest just needs to arrive at the appointed time and place, and if they behave badly - the ones allowed to punish them are not the protest organizers but the police.
And, whats more, is that if your in Louisiana, Mississippi, or Texas, the protest organizer, too, gets punished for the bad behavior of others.
Its even more true when the most violent in a protest are working with the cops or are cops themselves.
Remember when one of the OWS agent provocateurs got outed by riding his motorcycle like a dick a few months afterwards?
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i support this sign and its artist but someone needs to teach them forearm anatomy they kind of said
Yes! I was actually admiring the artistry of the fists and the shadowing and everything and then I followed it down to the shapeless skinny forearms. looks like they put all their effort into the fists and couldn't be bothered to make realistic looking forearms
¿Porque no los dos?
Because cops can kick people off the force but protestors can't kick people out of protesting.
Sounds like a...
wait for it
...cop out.
😉👉👉
Ok then I hereby ban you from protesting.
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