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How do you say SUSE? (m.youtube.com)
submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

I always thought those whoe said susa instead of soos are wrong.

Suse stands for "Software und System-Entwicklung" https://linuxiac.com/opensuse/

Edit: Yes, she can still be wrong but then it's supported by the rest of susa's staff https://youtu.be/RsME20zXbQI&t=13

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (16 children)

I have a rule about acronyms: if the spelling makes sense to be said as a word, I follow the English grammatical rules. A word that's spelled s-u-s-e would be pronounced "soos", so that's what I say.

This is why I don't pronounce GNU as "ga-noo", it doesn't make sense as a word. In those cases, I just spell them out.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

There are people who don't say GNU like the animal?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

There are no rules, just loose patterns, and pronunciation is not grammar.

[–] LeFantome 1 points 9 months ago

Technically there are initialisms which cannot be pronounced ( letters only ) and acronyms which can be pronounced ( form words ).

So, in general, your rule is a good one. Of course, that does nothing to solve the problem of HOW to pronounce the words when so many different origin cultures are at play. As other have said, SUSE is German. So, is following “English grammatical rules” the right take?

I do not really have an answer. It is not self-evident to me. For Linux, Linus himself seems to have defaulted to US pronunciation. There is some precedent there I suppose.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So what's the deal with GNU? When I first saw it, I was sure the G was silent, or formed a dipthong, like gnat or gnocchi or gnaw or gnarly or gnome or just any word starting with gn in English. But IRL, I've only heard it pronounced with a hard G, same with Gnome.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Well thats the thing, generally if I see an acronym and have to ask myself how it would be pronounced as a word, by my rule I just spell it out.

For a great example of this (unrelated to FOSS), look at LGBTQIA+. Even though it's a mouthful to say each letter individually, no one wrestles it into "Leguhbuht'kwia plus", it just doesn't make sense and saying it that way would probably ellicit a dead stare from whoever heard it. Unless it's painfully simple to morph into a word or single syllable, I don't bother.

I'm not trying to say this is the right way, mind you. It's just the way that makes the most sense to me.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Except GNU is a great example of an acronym that is pronounceable. It's even in the dictionary. The GNU mascot is a gnu, in fact.

LGBTQIA+ is essentially unpronounceable, thus we treat it as an initialism. Not that that's a requirement, there are examples like VIP where even though we could pronounce it we pronounce each letter individually.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Lots of badlinguistics in this thread.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (10 children)

I always thought those whoe said susa instead of soos are wrong.

So, how do you pronounce Porsche?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Blinkvergesser!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Look up germans saying bitte, danke etc. Porshe follows that, except in North America

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Paw r sh [german low e]

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

OpenZooZah TumbleWeedah

Seriously though, unpopular opinion disclaimer, I think I may be only one that didn't find it funny at all, just an informative, overly long, cringey Tenacious D reinterpretation ?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (11 children)

I don't care. It's Soos. It's Ace-SUS, not Ah-soos. It's I-Key-Ah, not E-Kay-Ah. These are the way everyone around me says these things for as long as I can remember.

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