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There is no C++ allowed in the Linux kernel and Linus has gone on several major rants about how terrible a language it is.

Torvalds just really dislikes C++. He's gone on the record saying that he thinks it's just not a good language. In his own words "C++ is just a waste, there is no design at all, just adding some scum on top of C."

”C++ is a horrible language. It's made more horrible by the fact that a lot of substandard programmers use it, to the point where it's much much easier to generate total and utter crap with it. Quite frankly, even if the choice of C were to do nothing but keep the C++ programmers out, that in itself would be a huge reason to use C.”

http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/c++/linus

I don't know about Linus, but the last time Reiser's wife was seen, she was writing a c++ hello world

”C++ is a horrible language. It's made more horrible by the fact that a lot of substandard programmers use it, to the point where it's much much easier to generate total and utter crap with it. Quite frankly, even if the choice of C were to do nothing but keep the C++ programmers out, that in itself would be a huge reason to use C.”

http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/c++/linus

For an example from the other poster’s explanation:

https://lwn.net/Articles/249460/

This was pre c++11 - not sure if he’s changed his mind at all with more modern c++

Me, when Linus' opinion is different to mine: "Linus has such weirdly strong opinions about this"

Me when Linus' opinion is the same as mine: VINDICATION

I feel the OOP debate got a bit out of hand. I hate OOP as well, as a paradigm.

But I love objects. An object is just a struct that can perform operations on itself. It's super useful. So many problems lend themselves to the use of objects.

I've been writing a mix of C and C++ for so long I don't even know where the line is supposed to be. It's "C with objects". I probably use only 1% of the functionality of C++, but that 1% is a huge upgrade from bare C IMO.

He is is OK with OOP. The Linux kernel is full of OPP C, but he doesn't like C++

A PHP kernel?

For kernel dev it would be a disaster, there's too much implicit action, and abstractions that have unknown runtime cost. The classic answer is that everyone uses 10% of its features over C, but nobody can agree on which 10%.

As someone forced to get up to date with C++ recently, at this point it's a language in full identity crisis. It wants so badly to be Rust, but it's got decades of baggage it's dragging along.

What’s wrong with C? Just write a module

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