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submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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FAQ

Q: why not organize and stop treating the bus as a legitimate entity? why aren’t you working to stop the bus?

A: do both. cut the fuel line. break windows. put oatmeal in the gas tank. but maybe your efforts don’t succeed this election cycle. and if so don’t fucking throw away your vote if it can help your neighbors fucking survive. “harm reduction” is not a political strategy for action. it is a last minute, end of the line decision to save lives, after all other resources have been exhausted.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What kills me are the people whose preferred form of government is not currently the most popular form of government somehow think that after a revolution that their preferred form of government will win out. They're delusional. In most cases the government gets worse, much worse, before it gets better.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

Nah, it’s the difference between a grassy cliff, and a muddy one. Doesn’t matter, still a fucking cliff.

To extrapolate your metaphor, I will vote, but for a third option: a dirt road. Yea I’ll be in the minority, but we are all good as dead anyway since everyone else including my state reps believe one cliff or the other is the path to Valhalla.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I will vote, but for a third option

Ah, so you're voting for trump I see!

/s, obviously that depends on where you are on top of other things

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago

I'm surprised an instance like this is okay with people showing up and arguing why letting a transphobic fascist take power is actually not as bad as it sounds.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (20 children)

I will not be voting for anyone who supports a genocide. That will not change. Now there are two ways to change the outcome.

If you are a genocide supporter who wants to be elected, you could stop supporting genocide, and be vocal about it.
If you are someone who wants me to vote for your candidate, you could demand that they stop supporting genocide. Or demand that whatever party you like stops nominating people who support genocide.

I will not budge. Will you?

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago

People need to lower their expectations about what voting is. It's like paying your taxes. It's not fun, you probably won't get what you want, and you have to do it every year. Also, individual votes don't really matter, especially if your candidate loses. And there's a ton of things in the way of getting things done so it's going to take a long time.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago (10 children)

American with two Party system and no real choice trying ro rationalize HM?

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Four people vote for driving off a cliff. Three vote for driving into a wall. Two vote for getting ice cream.

Everybody on the bus dies. You blame the people who voted for ice cream.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Thus is the problem with our broken, binary choice system. Ranked voting may not be perfect, but it is exceeding better than the me we have now.

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