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[Image description : 4 Panel comic. Panel 1: A Dora the explorer ripoff wearing a fedora and with the fedora logo on her t-shirt is smiling at the viewer. The caption "Fedora the explorer" is over her head. Panel 2: She speaks to a vaguely anthropomorphic chameleon: "Hello Opensuse !" He replies : "Hi Fedora!" Panel 3: OpenSuse Says: "Someone has been using your code while not freely providing theirs despite the GPL licence!" Panel 4: Fedora "Hmmm... Who could it be?" A fox wearing a red hat emerges from a bush in the background. End ]

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[–] [email protected] 159 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I really like that post!

It seems like OP put a lot of work and creativity into the meme, while intelligently criticizing a problem and not just using "Windows bad hurr hurr" as the base.

I wanna see more of those kind!

[–] [email protected] 30 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Agree, tho this is a cartoon, which I guess these days might be a subset of meme, but wasn't always. Anyways, kudos OP.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Thanks! Now, to defend the memeticity of my creation:

A cartoon can be a meme if it contains memetic elements that get reused across several memes by different creators (cf: the rage comics).

This comic contains text. Languages and alphabets are memes. Therefore, it counts as a meme.

Checkmate.

(Also, since "meme" comes from the greek word "mimeme" (to imitate), including an imitation of Dora the Explorer is also memetic; even moreso since it's been done many times)

(Also, given the way it spreads through sharing, copying and modifying, Linux can also be considered a meme. Since the sharing part is mostly through the internet, it fits an even narrower definition of "internet meme", therefore a cartoon about Linux can definitely be considered a meme)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

Sure, artist gets to choose... I guess this is an example of cartoon being a subset of meme then, on the internet even :)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Not to be mistaken with lady Integra the Explorer, a once kinda famous movie star that regards herself as beautiful. Is also a zombie now, and (still) blue.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Have you taken a look at c/politicalmemes ?If a humorless poorly constructed wall of doomerism text lamenting the flaws of modern capitalist society counts as a meme, just about anything does these days

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Yeah, where the cartoon series??

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago
[–] [email protected] 83 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

Un verdadero meme de Linux

[–] [email protected] 44 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Where and how can I find more about Fedora the explorer. This universe is one I would gladly immerse myself in

[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Next week: Fedora meets a new friend named Lennart while on her way to Multiuser Mountain. Will they be able to cross the init bridge without being caught by Sammy the Systemd Hating Troll?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

I'd watch that movie!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

Thanks, I just came up with it yesterday and I don't know if it's been done before, do I can't say if there's any other "Fedora the Explorer" content online. However I've done 4 or 5 other cartoons with anthropomorphized Linux distros or softwre, I've posted all of them in the linuxmemes Lemmy community and will continue to do so if I make new ones. (Some are of better quality than than others because there's one I've made with my phone and one I've made with a Thinkpad's trackpad...)

[–] [email protected] 30 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Yeah, someone on Lemmy has remembered about OpenSuSE

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

Omg right?

I was excited just for that, but then also the comic made me laugh as its actually really well made.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

There's at least two of us

[–] [email protected] 25 points 8 months ago (1 children)

OP, can I get a tagged version of this so I can freely send it around while properly crediting your work?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago

Thanks! I'm not used to tagging my memes, and I wouldn't have minded you sharing it without tag, but it's a nice idea! Here, I put my username on it (it's pretty much the same I use on Newgrounds, Tumblr and Mastodon, though I don't have a big following on any platforms and I haven't posted that specific meme anywhere but here for now).

signed meme

[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 28 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Red Hat is the swiper here

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago

RED HAT DON'T TOUCH THAT

RED HAT DON'T TOUCH THAT

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Wasn't it like they still provide their sources, but not binaries, which (while generally being a dick move) doesn't doesn't contradict the GPL?

Or have I missed something?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Afaik the issue is that they made their code "open" source in the way many for-profit companies do: they require a subscription before you have access to the code.

If I understand the GPL correctly that doesn't violate it, since it only requires that the users have access to the source and not the general public.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The part that really makes it possibly infringe on the GPL is when you combine it with their user terms: It threatens terminating service to customers who get the code and share it. The GPL is supposed to guarantee that the rights of sharing the source code, and RedHat impedes on this freedom. I think his article breaks it down pretty well: https://opencoreventures.com/blog/2023-08-redhat-gets-around-gplv2-license-intention-with-contract-law/

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago

Microsoft did a similar thing with GPLV2 software. That's one of the new things in the GPLv3, you camnot enforce source code restriction by thirdparty subscription agreements

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

No. They closed their sources to subscribers, which in itself would be fine, but the terms of service contain a clause forbidding redistribution of the sources by subscribers, at the penalty of termination of the agreement.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

Are ... Are there any more of these?

And does OpenSuse use a tumbleweed as a transport system?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

Technically not a GPL violation

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Would have been even better if the wolf was wearing a black hat and holding the red.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That's not a wolf, that's Swiper the Fox. Swiper no swiping, Swiper no swiping, Swiper no swiping!

https://youtu.be/JmpooFefGTU

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Damn, I was wondering how Firefox tied into Red Hat shenanigans. I am officially old, and pinning the blame on this post.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

I must have seen or heard every episode of Dora the Explorer when my kids were little. The other ear worm I'll never get out of my head is:

https://youtu.be/YJfb4SlhRmY