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[–] [email protected] 41 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Enterprise definitely had the most boring, but also the only practical uniform. It’s the one uniform that I’d consider actually wearing.

I imagine the actors liked it as well. Don’t think I’ve ever heard of any costume related complaints on that series…

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago

I like the Enterprise uniform. It does exactly what's it's meant to do. It's incredibly evocative of the 'new frontier' vibe of modern day astronaut ware and really plays in to Enterprises whole 'submarine in space' aesthetic. I totally understand why it's not as liked, as it's maybe too close to modern for some, but as Enterprise is that bridge between now and then, it works for me.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I doubt all of Blalock's getups were comfortable.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It’s definitely one of Trek’s more… problematic habits in the older series: let’s put an attractive woman in something sexy rather than an actual uniform. Marina Sirtis, Jolene Blalock, Jeri Ryan; and every woman who’s ever been on TOS. God only knows how Terri Farrell managed to dodge a skimpy outfit as her duty uniform. I assume a really good agent.

Now don’t get me wrong. As a guy I like those looks. But I do recognise it can be a problematic thing in terms of how you should treat actors.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

TOS actually has an excuse with '60s feminist culture. Miniskirts were seen as liberating and feminist after the longer dresses of the '50s. They were even suggested for the uniform by Grace Lee Whitney, who played Janice Rand. Though, considering Roddenberry, that they were skimpy is probably why he went along with it. He would routinely redesign costumes for guest actresses to be skimpier.

Farrell didn't entirely get away from it. Berman insisted she stuff her bra for the role (apparently she wasn't busty enough for his tastes).

You also forgot to list Nana Visitor's second uniform for Kira. She was the only Bajoran officer to get a uniform update when the Starfleet crew got their First Contact uniforms, and it inexplicably added high heels and a dip just above her cleavage.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Fair enough regarding TOS; it was kind of the time for miniskirts.

I didn’t know that re: Farrell. Still, she’s certainly attractive enough without needing enhancements in that area. Seems silly to think that anyone actually watching the show would care about it.

And you’re right, whenever I’m thinking of Kira, I’m always thinking of her more modest uniform. Which was still too form fitting for what I imagine the character would prefer.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

"The problems with my leaving were with Rick Berman," Farrell explained. "In my opinion, he's just very misogynistic. He'd comment on your bra size not being voluptuous.... That stuff was so intense, especially the first couple of years."

https://www.cbr.com/star-trek-why-terry-farrell-jadzia-dax-left-ds9/

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

They look like something a modern navy might adapt for submariners.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 9 months ago

I really really love the Enterprise costumes. They communicate the early stage of human space travel so well, by being so close to NASA's gear. In comparison to the 80ies/90ies Series they also look so down to earth and vintage.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago (2 children)

What did she have to do? I bet it's really complicated, like put together an Ikea dresser.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

I'd just be like "Transporter room 2, help me out".

If The Doctor could deliver Naomi Wildman via transporter, surely it can drop the kids off at the pool as well.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

+1 I wanna see that

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

#chiefobrienatwork

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

No thanks, if they're the tiniest bit off you no longer have an intestine.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

Colostomy bag but it‘s a miniaturized transporter

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Eh, a quick trip to medical can fix that right up.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Betazoid stuff. You wouldn't understand.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Dunk through the sacred rings of Betazed into the chalice of Rixx?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Look... Deanna is a classy lady and just didn't want to tell Picard that she had to take the biggest dump of her life.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

It's called the Betazoid boop.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Going to the store for betazoid products is The Worst. I don't know what any of this stuff is!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

You think that's bad? It's worse when she sends Riker to do it.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I had to jump back and rewatch a s7 episode, becuase there were two-piece uniforms this late in the show. And I didn't realise that the (leading) women are still weraing one-piece. They really did them dirty, whilst Picard is reliving his rebel phase with that shirt & bomberjacket combo.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago (1 children)

TNG uniforms do have pockets, but they're small and hard to make out.

When Geordi is mind controlled by Romulans and tries to assassinate a Klingon, he slips a mini phaser out of a pocket.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago

Lower Decks uniforms, too. There's a scene where Rutherford learns about them.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Uhhh ACK-shulllly Season 4 episode 9 of Lower Decks confirmed the presence of pockets. Get your meme facts straight!!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I'm pretty sure I've seen them pull tricorders out of pockets before on either TNG, DS9, or VOY.

Edit: there's a pic showing Picard and Data with pockets in this very thread.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago
[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

My personal head canon is that every time a new species joins the Federation they get the perk of designing the new uniform. Troi's Betazeds picked the TOS miniskirt

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What about the TNG miniskirt?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago

Dax's people

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Actually, fun fact- pocketless may be less practical, but they work on a space vessel, something that has a lot of moving parts that require maintenance and must operate to very high standards.

IRL people that work in and around those conditions are generally not allowed pockets to prevent any kind of pocket junk falling into a machine and potentially jamming it, so this isn't a practicality thing, it's a SAFETY thing.

~~Ignore the fact that the Enterprise routinely takes immense amounts of punishment~~

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago

ISS clothes:

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

The lack of pockets might keep junk from falling into machinery, but it sure as hell doesn't keep junk from falling out every time the Enterprise takes damage.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

BDUs had more pockets than anything outside of cargo shorts.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago
[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

What about the phaser pocket add-on and the tricorder pocket add-on in TNG/ds9/voy.... Not only did those uniforms have pockets, though subtle and probably not very large, they existed, but you could also bolt on more pockets.