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    [–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago

    Bill said Windows 10 was the last one, so...

    [–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    11? Fuck that, I'm not sidegrading to 8.

    I ain't even joking. My media PC is still on 7, everything else is on Linux now.

    [–] [email protected] 60 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Isn't it insecure to run such an old version tho? (Since it stopped recieving updates years ago)

    [–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago

    Stockholm syndrome windows users trying to justify their toxic relationship to microsoft (colorized circa 2020).

    [–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

    It's insecure (in more ways than one) to be running Windows in general. If you value security to a high degree you probably shouldn't be using Windows.

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    [–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

    windows 8 made me switch to linux

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

    I recently upgraded windows 7 to mint

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    [–] YonatanAvhar 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)
    [–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

    all Linux memes communities have been like this

    Linuxmemes: the ultimate hub for Windows memes.

    [–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago

    True story: I had been consistently telling my laptop not to upgrade to Windows 11 for literally months. I left it at home for like 3 days and when I came back it had upgraded itself anyway. That was the day I completely deleted Windows from my laptop. Formatted the entire hard drive and haven't regretted it yet. Never even logged into Windows 11.

    [–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    TIL that you can be coerced into win 11 upgrade. I have immunity, tho! My PC is too shitware ;-;

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    It told me that too. Which was fine because like nobody asked? But then it did it anyway. Quietly in the night like the sneaky little hoe that it is. I'm still pretty salty. I thought I was safe 😔

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Whaaaaaaaaaaaaa. But...if your machine is too weak to run it...isn't this simply damaging your machine at that point?! The hell?!

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

    Yeah I dunno it's an older surface too lol. So it already wasn't super great. If I'm being honest I haven't noticed much of a difference other than having to move the start button because I'll be damned if I'm gonna have that thing in the middle of my screen like some kind of crazy person

    [–] starman 14 points 1 year ago

    You spelled downgrading wrong

    [–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Does win 11 still require physical hardware to run? Why I have to sacrifice one of my motherboard slots for a worthless authentication chip that might stop working and brick my computer - ya I'll stay with 10.

    [–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    The TPM is either built into your CPU or plugs into a dedicated header on the motherboard.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

    It's built into my CPU but for some reason MS doesn't trust the Intel Core i7 chips.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Strange, I thought it was a standard header. Why I bought 10 instead of 11 when building my computer.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

    It's either the LPC header or it's soldered onto the board directly. LPC header doesn't have any other *official uses so it's not sacrificing functionality. Though I can understand why somebody wouldn't want to have a TPM module on their board. It's pretty easy to bypass that requirement in Windows (over and over) though.

    [–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

    You're not sacrificing a slot. TPM chips are typically either soldered onto the motherboard, built into the chipset, or (in the few instances that they are optional) go in a special port just fir them.

    There are plenty of reasons not to move to W11 without making up new ones.

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

    Technically it's an artificial requirement, it'll run just fine without secure boot and TPM, you'll just need to do some work around to install it that way.

    [–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

    Windows 11 sucks

    [–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

    Oh, right. Microsoft is still at it with their "Windows" thing.

    [–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

    'Upgrading'.

    [–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

    I moved to Linux (Arch btw) and I haven’t looked back.

    The lack of bloatware and the snappiness of Linux just beats any other OS.

    [–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

    windows 11 end of support

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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    [–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

    Like Patrick Henry said: "Give me Arch or give me death!"

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Stay on 10 for as long as possible if you have to use windows. Ideally go for LTSC and even more ideally, switch to sth else

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

    The problem arises if Microsoft introduces a new version of DirectX that is exclusive to Windows 11....like they did with DirectX 12.

    When that time comes, I'm moving to Linux full time. If I have issues, I'll just bust out the Series X.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    LTSC is good for a machine with a dedicated purpose. My DJ laptop runs LTSC, for example. But I wouldn't suggest using it as your main OS unless you don't mind reinstalling Windows every year (I don't, but some people do).

    11 really isn't that bad once you work around the bullshit. Use StartAllBack to restore the old Start Menu and position the taskbar vertically, and SoundSwitch to keep it from changing your default audio device every time you plug something in. Once you install those two apps, dare I say that 11 is better than 10.

    Hell, it's worth it alone for its considerably better HDR experience. In 10 you had to constantly fiddle with it, or even turn it off altogether when viewing non-HDR content, if you didn't want a washed-out image. In 11, just enable AutoHDR, change your monitor settings to automatically tone map (instead of using HGiG), and forget about it. You'll never have to mess with settings, toggling things, or calibrations ever again to get a good HDR and SDR image, even in games. It just works.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Yes, ltsc should be reinstalled every once in a while but imho 2-3 years is fine.

    Windows 11 may have improved hdr but at the same time comes with far more ads, with far more bundled bloatware etc. So it’s up to you to judge.

    Last time I booted into windows which was in 2021-ish, I literally removed 5 Gb o junk from that OS.

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

    Well thankfully you can remove the Start menu ads with StartAllBack, and the rest by following this guide.

    That said, if you don't care about HDR, then you're probably better off with 10 or LTSC. Everybody has different needs. Mine so happen to make 11 the better option for me.

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    [–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

    I had to upragde my computer because I couldn't upgrade to 11 lol.

    4790 gang represent

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    got new laptop, good deal but no choice besides 11, works fine for me. wont upgrade desktop until forced but no need to try too hard to avoid it imho

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    I have to say I really like windows 11. It’s more secure and it runs well for me. It’s very similar to 10 still with some more refined existing features, and even some cool new ones like live captioning and OCR snipping

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