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[–] [email protected] 173 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (22 children)

It is wild that people will say that using apt to install things is too hard, but then suggest a registry edit to remove Bing from seach. Windows just isn't as casual user friendly as it pretends to.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Honestly, with Flatpak and immutable base systems this is a place Linux is really excelling now too. Being able to show a novice user a shared package manager with a search and a bunch of common apps and them actually install/remove them in a safe manner with a high likelihood they'll work out of the box (since they come with all their deps in sync independent from distro) is kinda huge.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's a pretty mixed bag honestly. Sure there are some apps that we get in a mammoth poorly made appimage we'd probably have to have run in wine before or some terrifying statically compiled program embedded in a run script and that's probably a win.

The trade-off is every developer being their own distro maintainer, 100s of gigs of duplicate dependencies, broken containers with missing libraries, leaky requirements on the underlying system, and everyone needs to be a security expert to understand all the options in flatseal to expose the right features.

Also, instead of one distro source, I've got at least 3 and I've in the last week had to install programs from multiple sources trying to get a functioning version. This feels like the norm rather than an exception.

Also this week had an app image broken by a requirement on a removed system library outside the app and a flatpak missing a key library forcing me to dig up an old .deb version. The later I lost like 6hrs on because clearly libusb was installed on the system but I didn't realize I'd installed the flatpak and in wasn't in the container. Such fun.

So it's not really all sunshine and rainbows yet.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

Fwiw, this is not an endorsement of Windows. I strongly believe if most people spent half the time they spent fighting Windows learning Linux they'd never go back.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Don't really need sandboxed software for that. Ubuntu comes with their own software store and even if you only select deb, you just klick on install and you're done

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

Even good ol' Debian has that, using either GNOME Software or KDE Discover for managing software.

[–] PoolloverNathan 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Actually I want to write an app browser for NixOS now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

there's one called nix-software-center

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