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Exclusive: Bernie Sanders worries young people are underestimating the threat from Trump
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Yeah, Bernie always carries water for the DNC, and it’s always to the detriment of progressive American politics.
Record oil and gas drilling, multi-time failure to codify Roe, redlining, gave away the public option, Manchin’s removed, Bibi’s removed, tricked Warren to betray Bernie for nothing, fascist crackdown on peacefully protesting college kids, ancient dinosaur who’s out of touch. I could go on.
There are other options aside from red and blue, and as a swing state voter, I’ll be taking them. The establishment Dems would have you be angry with me and those like me, but this is a misdirection and also just another of Biden’s failings - no ability to take responsibility for his own reprehensible actions.
Americans like you are the absolute worst. So damn irresponsible. All that undeserved extra voting power you have, and you choose to squander it and use it for an act of shameful self-righteousness, with no regard for the consequences of your actions. You clearly have zero respect for progressive politics, progressive movements, and even progressive leaders.
Ignorant liberal voters: as useful for destroying democracy as ignorant fascists
Keep voting for 99% Hitler instead of 100% gets us to the same place
Game theory is a tough subject, but it would be worth it for you to study to understand how you are acting against your less preferred candidate and helping what should be your least preferred candidate (assuming your ranked choice has the republican nominee below the democratic nominee).
You make it seem as though your protest vote does not also get us to the same place? Many voters have shared your mentality and voted accordingly for the past 200+ years and it’s not made a difference, what makes you think this time things will change?
In "The Ultimatum Game," the first player makes an offer of how to split $100 with a second player, who can then choose whether to accept or deny the offer. If they accept, they split the money as proposed, if they refuse, neither of them get anything.
The game theory rational outcome is for the first player to offer $99-$1, and for the second player to accept. Assuming, of course, that the first player knows the second will act according to game theory rationality. In real life, when experiments have been done, people tend to reject offers past about $70-$30. Because people tend to have a minimum line, it makes more sense to make offers more generous than $99-$1.
There's a good reason why people behave that way. It's because, in practice, when a comparable situation comes up, it's usually not just a one and done interaction. The second player can tell the first what they will or won't accept, and if they accept something less than what they said, they lose credibility in the future. In that sort of situation, the worst possible thing for the second player to tell the first is that they intend to act according to their rational self-interest, that they'll accept any offer because it's better than getting nothing.
I would argue that this situation is analogous to voting. The politicians make an offer on how much they'll do for you vs how much they'll benefit themselves, and the voter has the option to accept or refuse the offer. Just as in the above example, it's sometimes better to refuse a bad offer even if the alternative is worse, in order to gain bargaining power and credibility in the future. Meanwhile, following a strategy of "lesser-evilism" guarantees that you will only ever be offered 99-1 splits, because they know you'll accept 1 rather than zero.
Sometimes, an "irrational" strategy can be more effective than what appears to be game theory rational on the surface level.
Voting for Biden gets us to the same place. At least I'm voting for "not genocide"
So FUCKING TIRED of the "moral" wing of our single party govt this go round staying completely silent on Republicans and their policies to blame the world on anyone who won't "vote blue no matter who" though even mainstream Democrats and pundits can't come up with anything better than "yeah Biden does it but trump will do it worse!"
I don't give a fuck how hot a take it is - if "voting for not genocide" makes me a filthy commie than let me fetch my sickle and hammer. Enjoy your "moral high ground" of blaming all our problems on people who think genocide is bad (or making it easy to strip leftist orgs of non profit status, or a handful of other things y'all libs purposefully ignore in lieu of pushing your false narrative that anyone left of Biden are "single issue voters" who "advocate for not voting."
You literally just started by saying you won't vote for him for a single issue, then end by saying you are not a single issue voter.
Tell me you didn't read the comment without reading the comment.
Fuck off, faschie.
I don't even necessarily disagree with your ideas, it's the rhetoric I find disheartening.