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United Airlines pilots said pedals that control rudder movement on the plane were stuck as they tried to keep the plane in the center of the runway during the Feb. 6 landing.

The pilots were able to use a small nose-gear steering wheel to veer from the runway to a high-speed turnoff. The rudder pedals began working again as the pilots taxied to the gate with 155 passengers and six crew members on the flight from Nassau, Bahamas, according to a preliminary report by the National Transportation Safety Board.

Boeing said this is the only rudder-response issue reported on a Max, although two similar incidents happened in 2019 with an earlier model of the 737 called NG or next generation, which has the same rudder-pedal system.

The manufacturer said the issue was fixed by replacing three parts. The plane has made dozens of passenger-carrying flights since then, according to data from FlightAware.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 8 months ago (10 children)

Well when you have a habit of not installing bolts it means anything on the plane can fail...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (9 children)

You’re probably right but can you explain your logic?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If you don't maintain your fleet, eventually they'll all fall out of the sky

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Fleet maintenance is an airline responsibility.

The bolt situation was a Boeing responsibility.

These don’t really reflect on each other well.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The whole industry is structured to hold individuals accountable but not ownership... Think of the standards ATCs have to maintain. Pilot training hours. Why is that level of scrutiny not being applied to assets?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yea, but that’s also an entirely different issue…

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Inspecting equipment is a different issue than fleet maintenance or manufacturing QA?

Are you high or a dumbass?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Let’s see:

We started by talking about manufacturer QA vs fleet maintenance. I called out that those are different things handled by different people.

Then you went on to talk about individuals being held responsible instead of execs.

Now, we’re talking about inspecting equipment vs fleet maintenance vs manufacturer QA. Which I agree inspection and maintenance go hand in hand and are the responsibility of the airline, but they are still different.

You’re muddying things quite a bit.

Boeing isn’t to be blamed for poor maintenance. They don’t do that, the airline that owns the plane does. But Boeing is under significant scrutiny to we’re seeing all these stories about problems that old jets are having that can be chalked up to poor maintenance. That was my point to begin with.

It’s another conversation entirely to discuss who should be held accountable (see: execs) for these poor practices.

Not sure why we’re resorting to name calling but… ok.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Why is that level of scrutiny not being applied to assets?

Inspecting equipment is a part of both maintenance and QA. You are a dumbass.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

You’re missing the entire point. But ok.

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