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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (17 children)

When the only thing that continues to work on you ad-filled web site is the captcha, I’m not interested in supporting your journalism any more.

Protip: You can crash self-driving cars by purposefully misclicking during Captcha checks when they ask you to identify what is a bicycle, a car, a pedestrian, etc. Keep misclicking, your are poisoning the AI with each misclick. Just stay safe on the sidewalk.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I'm sorry what? And by that I mean what the hell is wrong with you and the people that think it's a good idea? If it works that way and enough people did that then it would be intentionally endangering people's lives.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It'd be the business' fault not ours, you shouldn't use unreliable user data for something so important.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Legally you are correct but ethically you are wrong. If they include false data that causes a crash, everyone that intentionally contributed that data is morally at fault. You don't get to wash your hands of it just because the business is the one legally liable for it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean ethically its a debatable topic, if I don't help fix someone's car and then he crashes it, its not my fault, he shouldn't have driven it while it was broken.

Same with user generated or AI data, it works 99.9% of the time, but that 0.1% is too dangerous to deploy in a life endangering situation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You've got a bit of a point there I'll give you that but it's an apple to oranges comparison, unless you're intentionally trying to cause them to crash by not helping them fix their car. The person I originally replied to is advocating intentionally trying to cause a crash.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it was a more tongue in cheek reference to the incompetence of the companies and how they will use that data in practice, but I might have read too much into it. Regardless, intentionally clicking the wrong items on captchas shouldn't cause a crash unless the companies force it to by cutting corners.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

It doesn't matter if it was tongue in cheek, if my dumbass took it seriously then you know other dumbass people will take it seriously. And I guess my main issue is about the vocal intent to cause harm which is demonstrated by their mention of making sure to stay safe on the sidewalk.

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