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[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (13 children)

There’s no such thing as ‘parents’ rights’

Parents have a right to raise their children in accordance with their own values

Great start!

[–] [email protected] 30 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (8 children)

Finish the thought.

. But that doesn’t give them the right to override their children’s own rights under the Charter, notably their children’s rights to life and security of the person.

Parents have the right to teach their values not as a product of being parents, but as a result of their individual rights to freedom of expression. What they don't have is a right to enforce those values on their child if their child rejects them.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (3 children)

The challenge with this is that kids are, for lack of a better term, fucking stupid. Children intrinsically reject all sorts of ideas and values that a functioning adult is expected to have. For instance, sharing, patience, kindness, and virtue. These have to be taught to a child, sometimes through a long and difficult process.

It also doesn't help that these are vague ideas. For many people, virtue and religion are tied together as one. At what point does a child become autonomous enough to make their own decisions about their values?

I'm all for limiting the idea of overbearing parents, but defining terms and details is going to be nearly impossible.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

At what point does a child become autonomous enough to make their own decisions about their values?

Middle school-ish. It might make sense to tie it to the age of criminal responsibility (that is, the age at which you're assumed to have enough understanding of right and wrong to be charged with a crime in your own right), which, in Canada, is 12.

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