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What if someone did a takedown of Pokemon that fully explores the implications, but the thing is that a takedown of Pokemon cannot be fun. If its fun then its just grimdark Pokemon. Its "do not do this cool thing" ludonarrative dissonance. Youre not getting anything truly cool out of that.

We it would need to be a pain to play. Like Spec Ops: The Line, but Pokemon. Or maybe Undertale: Genocide Run but Pokemon specifically instead of JRPGs generally?

Palworld is definitly not that lol. It revels in the fucked upness as far as i can tell. It doesnt even shame you so you dont even get the "do not do this cool thing" aspect. And it endevors to be fun (ymmv on success).

But Im wondering if a game that says to Pokemon what Spec Ops: The Line said to military FPSes is possible?

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (13 children)

Ok i broadly agre with this, even though we just had a whole thread of people yelling otherwise, but I will point out

Doesnt Undertale's Genocide run "problematize" being a completionist and JRPGs? And people love that shit.

Tbh as an ND completionist I kinda always didnt like that tbh. Felt like I was being scolded for my playstyle. But people always told me I was wrong! So.

Ok now im just taking out my bitterness. But seriously. What about Undertale?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Undertale is overrated and the bit of "you did the rpg thing oooooohh what a bad person you are" is dumb

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Actually it’s a really solid critique of how we are constantly instilled with the instinct to obtain and develop power from all the media we consume in the West, intentional or not

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Love too consume my western media, like jrpgs

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yes but it got very popular in Western countries, and for some reason I doubt the original bug catching context was the reason why

Edit: thought this was in the Pokémon threads, nvm

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