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Pokemon isn't about dogfighting. Pokemon is about six year olds finding a cool bug in the woods and making up a whole story about how it's a cool magic bug that can fly and shoot fire and stuff. Like someone said "all the descriptions of pokemon as having all these magic abilities or being cosmic gods is how small children make up imaginative stories about their dolls and toys." The correct frame isn't brutal dog fights. It children engaged in imaginative play.
Who would this speculative brutal dog-fighting game intended to make people feel bad about playing pokemon be for?
Spec ops has a clear audience. It's speaking to fps players for whom actual warfare has been completely abstracted out of the games they play. It's goal, more or less, is to tell players that the games they play are representations of real conflicts where real people suffer and die horribly.
The direct equivalent would be to make a children's game for children about catching bugs and frogs and then having all the bugs and frogs they catch die in an awful, emotionaly scaring fashion to, idk, convince kids that catching bugs is bad?
Fps games are an abstraction of warfare. Pokemon is an abstraction of walking through the woods picking up grasshoppers and putting them in a jar to show to your family members.
Personally, i don't think pokemon needs to be deconstructed or problematized, or that the idea even makes sense. Afaik pokemon doesn't desensitive people to the idea of putting frogs in your pocket to take home to show to your parents.
Ok i broadly agre with this, even though we just had a whole thread of people yelling otherwise, but I will point out
Doesnt Undertale's Genocide run "problematize" being a completionist and JRPGs? And people love that shit.
Tbh as an ND completionist I kinda always didnt like that tbh. Felt like I was being scolded for my playstyle. But people always told me I was wrong! So.
Ok now im just taking out my bitterness. But seriously. What about Undertale?
Undertale is overrated and the bit of "you did the rpg thing oooooohh what a bad person you are" is dumb
Honestly? Thank you for saying it lol. (I also feel that theres ableist implications, not that Toby Fox intended them but yuknow).
Actually it’s a really solid critique of how we are constantly instilled with the instinct to obtain and develop power from all the media we consume in the West, intentional or not
Love too consume my western media, like jrpgs
Yes but it got very popular in Western countries, and for some reason I doubt the original bug catching context was the reason why
Edit: thought this was in the Pokémon threads, nvm