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[–] [email protected] 68 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (55 children)

Lol, high-speed rail in the US is a joke. California's HSR program started in 1996 and hasn't produced anything substantial in nearly 30 years. They might be able to get 1/3 of Phase 1 into operation by 2030. It's not even in discussion unless it's bundled with some kind of meme shit like depressurized train tunnels and eliminating safety measures.

In China, Deng started the Chinese HSR program around the same time and went from virtually none to being the world leader in kilometers of HSR with ~45,000 Km of operational HSR. To put that into perspective, that's double the rest of the world combined. In fact, China has more HSR in construction than the rest of the world has active HSR today.

deng-cowboy train-shining

[–] hpca01 1 points 10 months ago (54 children)

There's this thing called land ownership which is a right...the state can eminent domain them but they'd have to fight it in court.

Doubt they have that in China, if your home is in the way of a planned development...it won't be soon. You don't buy land from the government there, it's on a lease basis.

That and everyone in politics has to be aligned. If the top down order is to build a HSR, no cog in the system can just slow shit down for the hell of it. Doesn't work that way in the US, as witnessed by the myriad times that the government can never approve the budget before it's due.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 10 months ago (12 children)

Oh I'll just tell the poor Americans I know whose homes were bulldozed for transportation infrastructure that it didn't happen because they could have fought it in court. Dumbass.

[–] hpca01 1 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Nah, you could tell them that at least they had the right to fight it in court.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well, shit for brains, if you'd read my post you'd know they were poor, so they didn't have money for all the attorney's fees that are necessary for that plan.

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[–] hpca01 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Cool cool cool cool cool. They can afford a home in California but they're dirt poor to afford an attorney?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

trains only run through expensive urban areas? people living in rented apartments deserve no protections?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago

What the fuck are you talking about California for, eminent domain is done across the whole country

[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago

you could tell them that at least they had the right to fight it in court.

What liberal education does to a mf.

The liberal notion that you have the "right" to do something when some politician sign a paper that say you can do something even when you'll never be able to actually do it is dogshit.

What good is on paper having the "right" to do something if you don't have the material capability to exert that right? They could just be honnest and pass a law forbiding anyone worth bellow 1M$ to fight construction companies in court and litteraly almost nothing would be different.

Also, I'd like you to show to me proof that the chinese peoples are forbiden from fighting the HSR constuctors in court.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago

When some chud court tells them to go fuck themselves because building a boarder wall as a symbolic gesture of fascism is more important, at least they can remember China Bad

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