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[–] [email protected] 68 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (55 children)

Lol, high-speed rail in the US is a joke. California's HSR program started in 1996 and hasn't produced anything substantial in nearly 30 years. They might be able to get 1/3 of Phase 1 into operation by 2030. It's not even in discussion unless it's bundled with some kind of meme shit like depressurized train tunnels and eliminating safety measures.

In China, Deng started the Chinese HSR program around the same time and went from virtually none to being the world leader in kilometers of HSR with ~45,000 Km of operational HSR. To put that into perspective, that's double the rest of the world combined. In fact, China has more HSR in construction than the rest of the world has active HSR today.

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[–] hpca01 1 points 10 months ago (54 children)

There's this thing called land ownership which is a right...the state can eminent domain them but they'd have to fight it in court.

Doubt they have that in China, if your home is in the way of a planned development...it won't be soon. You don't buy land from the government there, it's on a lease basis.

That and everyone in politics has to be aligned. If the top down order is to build a HSR, no cog in the system can just slow shit down for the hell of it. Doesn't work that way in the US, as witnessed by the myriad times that the government can never approve the budget before it's due.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

Doubt they have that in China, if your home is in the way of a planned development…it won’t be soon.

[citation needed]

In fact there are many exemples of the opposite happening, China having to build around something because the person(s) refused to move and China didn't force them to.

[–] hpca01 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yes I can flip a coin and half the time it lands on heads I can then claim that heads is always going to be the outcome of all coin flips.

I worked with a guy back in the day who was a dual citizen and owned homes back there. They were far ahead of us in terms of transportation, payments and conveniences. He went back every year for a month to party, even taking a few of us along.

All those nail houses you see are homes near roads, do you see one in the way of a HSR? You can't build a HSR around a home like you can with a road.

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