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[–] [email protected] 68 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (55 children)

Lol, high-speed rail in the US is a joke. California's HSR program started in 1996 and hasn't produced anything substantial in nearly 30 years. They might be able to get 1/3 of Phase 1 into operation by 2030. It's not even in discussion unless it's bundled with some kind of meme shit like depressurized train tunnels and eliminating safety measures.

In China, Deng started the Chinese HSR program around the same time and went from virtually none to being the world leader in kilometers of HSR with ~45,000 Km of operational HSR. To put that into perspective, that's double the rest of the world combined. In fact, China has more HSR in construction than the rest of the world has active HSR today.

deng-cowboy train-shining

[–] hpca01 1 points 10 months ago (54 children)

There's this thing called land ownership which is a right...the state can eminent domain them but they'd have to fight it in court.

Doubt they have that in China, if your home is in the way of a planned development...it won't be soon. You don't buy land from the government there, it's on a lease basis.

That and everyone in politics has to be aligned. If the top down order is to build a HSR, no cog in the system can just slow shit down for the hell of it. Doesn't work that way in the US, as witnessed by the myriad times that the government can never approve the budget before it's due.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 10 months ago (8 children)

America: bulldozes entire neighborhoods to build highways, displacing everyone with minimal compensation.

China: Nail house.

[–] hpca01 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

And everyone is free to fight you in court and sue the shit out of you if they find a flaw in your design.

Btw, don't you think that there are others that want to stay but didn't get a chance to? It's just the one dude who gets no water or electricity? No one else wanted to stay in the whole neighborhood?

What do you think happened before nail houses?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago (1 children)

don’t you think that there are others that want to stay but didn’t get a chance to?

Making a supposition that maybe there was doesn't make it true. If you think there is you need to prove it, a claim made without proof can be rejected without proof.

[–] hpca01 1 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Nah, you can believe what you want to, I don't really care.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 10 months ago

"I don't really care," states person who can't stop replying to comments.

bridget-pride-stay-mad

[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

"I don't really care anyway, I'm not trying to opt out of an argument I'm losing because I have no comeback and nothing to back what I'm saying" not mad

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago

The point isn't "freedom of belief", you are "free" to be as delusional as you want. What they are saying is that good epistemic practice dictates that you have some sort of inference from evidence that actually supports your claim rather than "I made it the fuck up".

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

And everyone is free to fight you in court and sue the shit out of you if they find a flaw in your design.

"The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread."

Wonder how wealth plays into the material reality of going to court. phoenix-think

How many of those lawsuits against eminent domain in the USA were successful btw?

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