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Gonna switch my server to Debian once DigitalOcean releases their Debian 12 guides.
Tired of seeing this "extended-security maintenance" bullshit on the most recent LTS of Ubuntu.
There are plenty of reasons to get rid of Ubuntu, but this isn't one of them.
Before Ubuntu Pro, packages in
universe
(andmultiverse
) were not receiving (security) updates at all, unless someone from the community stepped up and maintained the package. Now Canonical provides security updates foruniverse
, for the first time since Ubuntu has been introduced, via Ubuntu Pro, which is free for up to five personal devices and paid for all other use cases.Debian is actually not that different (anymore). If you read the release notes of Debian 12, you'll notice that quite a few package groups are excluded from guaranteed security updates, just like packages in
universe
are in Ubuntu. Unlike Ubuntu, Debian doesn't split its package repository by security support though.Looks like Canonical is trying to sell me security updates I would be getting for free on Debian.
Debian 12 likely isn't that different, but I don't want to follow a Debian 11 setup guide then run into issues.
This has always been the case with Ubuntu. Ubuntu only ever supported its
main
repository with security updates. Now they offer (paid) support for theuniverse
repository in addition, which is a bonus for Ubuntu users, as they now have a greater selection of packages with security updates.If you don't opt-in to use Ubuntu Pro, nothing changes and Ubuntu will be as secure (or insecure) as it has always been. If you disable
universe
andmultiverse
you have a Ubuntu system where all packages receive guaranteed security updates for free.Please note: I still don't recommend Ubuntu due to
snapd
not supporting third-party repositories, but that's no reason not to get the facts right.Debian has always been the better choice if you required security updates for the complete package repository.
Personally I have my doubts if Debian actually manages to reliably backport security updates for all its packages. Afterall Eclipse was stuck on version 3.8 for multiple Debian releases due to lack of a maintainer ...
debian's repo is massive. there are holes here and there from time-to-time as is likely the case in any distro--paid updates or not.
Thank you for the information.
I'll still be going with Debian because Ubuntu keeps telling me I have 2 security updates locked behind their paywall.