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[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago (23 children)

The problem with eating meat is not the eating meat. I don't give a fuck if someone eats meat from an animal that hasn't suffered, that was free and in its natural habitat. I don't know if I would myself because after 15 years of not eating meat I don't think I'd still like it, but it's not unethical. The problem is the untold amount of widespread suffering and cruelty of beings with emotions and sentience and attachments and capacity for both physical and emotional pain that is industrial livestock farming.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Someday I have a dream that the ADA relaxes its guidelines for certification that need everything to be so industrialized and monitored. And then, we could start selling meat of the "problem animals" that we have way too many of, like deer and boars. As long as they can stop people from breeding them (Hanoi Rat Massacre problems all over again) hunting could be a somewhat lucrative activity, and we wouldn't be contributing to global production problems by eating meat.

Of course, we'd need people to be aware that someday once those populations are under control, we'd have to change habits. And we know how people react to change...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

So, we used to allow selling deer meat. It resulted in people almost hunting deer in north America to extinction.
The ban is about animal conservation, not food safety.

Your second paragraph already happened, and we're living in the long tail maintenance cycle that follows.

The current system of deer hunting essentially sets a quota for how many can be killed, and there's essentially never a problem hitting that number.
In the majority of cases the deer is processed, typically by a certified processor to ensure food safety and reporting of any observed disease, and consumed.
If you don't want the meat, some processors will process it for you and donate it and give you a discount on the trophy parts. At the least there's a process for getting donations to people.

I've never heard of someone wasting the meat. Not for any moral reasons specifically, although there are those, but just based on appreciation for seasonal treat. It's getting to the season where I'll probably be gifted 5-10 pounds of venison, so I'm looking forward to it.

[–] thejodie 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In Alabama that quota for unantlered deer is 1 a day during the season. I'm not moving to Alabama any time soon though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Michigan is 12 per season on public land maximum, and I think it's unlimited on your own land.

[–] thejodie 1 points 1 year ago

I would visit Michigan! I'll keep that in mind.

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