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[–] [email protected] 191 points 11 months ago (16 children)

This is such a deeply disturbing viewpoint.

When someone says that a lack of religion leads to a lack of morality, what they're necessarily really saying is that they're so deeply sociopathic that they not only can't reason morally, but can't even envision the possibility of doing so. They're effectively stating outright that they can't even imagine arriving at sound moral judgments through the application of reason, empathy and concern for others, and that the only way they can even conceive of morality is as a set of rules laid down and enforced by some enormous daddy figure who's going to punish them if they break them.

It's astonishing really. And sobering.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 11 months ago (7 children)

It gets worse, because that’s what people use to justify the argument that people being evil is a part of human nature. Because they genuinely believe that being evil is the default state of humans despite centuries of evidence otherwise.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I dunno, I don't believe in a god, but I also don't believe humans are good either. We're pretty fucked up creatures.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)

To quote MIB: A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it.

I think it applies pretty broadly that individuals are decent but organized into society, we mess up quite a bit.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

I always say that the idea of civilised society is something we tell ourselves to make us feel better about the fact that we're living amongst wild animals.

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