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This is the Daystrom Institute Episode Analysis thread for Strange New Worlds 2x02 Ad Astra Per Aspera.

Now that we’ve had a few days to digest the content of the latest episode, this thread is a place to dig a little deeper.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I think it would behoove the series to revisit this issue in the future, and maybe shed some more light on why the eugenics laws exist, and why they're implemented in the way that they are.

As it stands, they haven't done much more than gesture toward the Eugenics Wars and said, "we don't want that to happen again." That's pretty much the bare minimum of what they should do - past franchise instalments have suggested that (human) genetic augmentation tends to produce unstable megalomaniacs (as Spock crudely put it, "Superior ability breeds superior ambition"). It would be nice to know whether this is still a likely side effect.

I'd also like to see more examination of what other Federation worlds have to say about this. Have other species had their own Eugenics Wars? Have any of their societies flirted with Gattaca-style hellscapes?

Overall, I keep coming around to this idea that the series is presenting regulations on eugenics as a bad thing, and I think they need to shade in some of those grey areas.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What an interesting episode idea, combining Gattaca with some sort of Federation meltdown over the societal practices. I enjoyed S02E02 quite a bit, and would like to see more of these "tough situations" for the UFOP to be challenged on. In this episode, Pike chooses a side, but acknowledges that he shouldn't have to pick, that the ideals the Federation espouses are still subject to deep, deep misunderstanding or fear.

I've been catching up on Star Trek shows for the past few years, starting with TOS and running all the way through Discovery's timeline hop. It's been neat to see how the Federation responds to different things as you watch the agency age and the story's canon coalesce.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

WHAT?!?!?! Going forward, in my head cannon, Gattaca lives in the Star Trek universe.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Cool idea, right? C'mon Goldsman, bring it to the screen!

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