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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I understand your sentiment but cars today are safer, quicker, dont rust as much, and get better gas mileage.

The cost to maintain an older car won't be cheap and it is shit for the environment.

We just need to place government regulations on subscriptions. With recent wins pertaining to right to repair, hopefully they pick up speed and people start voting to make good changes.

If you purchase a product, you should own it. If it has a feature that is disabled by the company, they should have to lease that space on your product, thereby paying you for the storage. That would incentivize not making products like this.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I understand your intentions, but blindly believing modern cars are safer just because they're modern isn't exactly a good mentality either.

For instance: the Volkswagen Up!! Being safer than the Renault kwid which is still better than the equally modern fiat panda, which got the lowest possible grade.

Remember: the auto industry will not make safer automobiles without pressure, I know this because the volkswagen T2 was built all the way to 2014 only getting performance or interior updates because of the lack of pressure on them to make a safer vehicle for that class.

Edit: also do note that the kwid built on Brazil is significantly different from the Indian kwid, meaning that one got 3 stars and the other only one.

As a side note: the Volkswagen Up! performed well when it was tested in 2014 by latinncap

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So the car I drove to work today is from 1992/93. Doesn't even have airbags. No AA brakes... and I can almost guarantee that it doesn't fold like a car from the 2020's

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

You know, the article I've sent mentions the differences between the Brazilian kwid and Indian.

One of the points mentioned in it is the differences between reinforcements in both vehicles, being the Indian having weaker structures and less safety gear. (No airbags and such) Thus it got a lower score.

Notice how this 1989 toyota celica does this is a good car from the day, notice how the driver's face bangs against the steering wheel? That's what airbags are for, older cars offer minimal head protection.

And the "older cars don't crumble" thing is proven to be bogus over and over again, if you look closely the older cars folded more frequently than their modern counterparts. In the case of the corolla, it didn't fare better than it's new and improved interation

Consider this quote: "It's not the fall that kills you; it's the sudden stop at the end." -Douglas Adams

Of course, automobiles are unlikely to fall, but it means that a sudden stop can cause a lot more harm than what people think, crumple zones are meant to absorb the shock.

Thus an automobile without any crumple zones whatsoever means that the car will be fine, but the sudden shock will cause lots of damage to your soft and mushy human body.

Modern automobiles have proven to be, on average, safer than their older counterparts. However as I have said: there are safe cars, not so safe cars and death traps. Which goes back to what I've said: measuring an automobile's safety solely by date of manufacturing is overly simplistic.

To be frank I kind of feel a sour grapes vibe :P but don't fret, I can't afford a new car either. Not every one can and that's where older cars shine.

Though I'd take a dacia sandero over a fiat panda anytime.

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