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[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children)

You need about 7 cars displaced per bus at all times in order for it to be more efficient in gas.

I would rather have a world full of velomobiles than buses.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_efficiency_in_transport#US_Passenger_transportation

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't know how it is in other places/countries but in Paris (inside and in the ≈ 15km area) , clearly, there is always at least 10 passenger in the same bus, I would say 25 average and at the peak hour an easy 50. So I think buses are still an energy efficient transport, at least in some places.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Moscow, usually all seats are taken(25 people), maybe only during night passanger count is single-digit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think most people recognize buses are effective for major cities. It gets murkier for less populated locations. America doesn't really build dense.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Which is really just a bad choice. We could have proper town planning if we wanted, and in fact we used to have it. But then we knocked down neighborhoods to make room for highways and that was that. We can work our way back to good towns of any size, if we wanted.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Public transit doesn't require density. Example: Old Oskol tram.

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