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I've been seeing a lot of people hate and uninstall Brave. Why? It's not like they're tracking us or doing anything else shady. If so, what's the privacy alternative?

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Just because Brave forks of Chromium, that doesn't mean they have to accept every change Google does and they can also do their own changes (ex: not supporting Manifest V3).

At least they are financially independent from Google, which you can't say about Firefox.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

At least they are financially independent from Google, which you can’t say about Firefox.

I absolutely love it when people bring this up.

It's always funny, mostly because Google is, let's see... A member of the GNOME Advisory Board, a financial supporter of the GNOME Foundation (scroll to the bottom to see their supporters), a supporting member of the KDE e.V., a Gold member of the Linux Foundation, and a major contributor to the Linux Kernel (you'll see some other companies you absolutely hate in that list as well).

Almost nothing in the major open source space is untouched by Google. But sure, Firefox in particular is evil because "Google money".

If you don't want to use something with financial support from Google, feel free to run FreeBSD and browse the web with, I don't know, Lynx or something. ~~Or Apple devices with Safari only. That's a pretty good option, actually, provided you like proprietary software and a super locked down system (except WebKit which is open source and I honestly believe more browsers should be based on it).~~ Lol, edit: Google pays more to Apple than Mozilla to be default on Safari, so nevermind that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I just think it's stupid people are always crying that Chromium forks are "controlled by Google" when they can do whatever they want with the fork.

I'm not saying that Firefox is bad because they take Google's money.

I just think that if you consider that, they are more dependent on Google than Brave is.

And since one of the main complaints of people is that they want to turn away from Google stuff, that should be taken into consideration.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

@El_Rocha @comicallycluttered

It's also about avoiding full control over web standards being given to Google.

Completely agreed that a fork of an open source product shouldn't be hated purely because* it's Google code.

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