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[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (12 children)

Only 7 murders? The population of London was apparently about 400,000 back then so that's less than half the murder rate of present-day New York City (which is considered a relatively safe city). I don't think that can be right...

1632 London: 7 / 400,000 = 17.5 murders per million people

2023 New York: 312 / 8,258,000 = 37.8 murders per million people

[–] [email protected] 46 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

a relatively safe city [...] 37.8 murders per million

Ignoring that in 1632 it might've been easier for murder to go undetected, here are the numbers of present day London. It's about 13.1 mpm, even lower than in 1632, about a third of present day New York.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/862984/murders-in-london/

America is not really a shining example when it comes to those things...

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (6 children)

New York's murder rate (and the overall murder rate in the USA) is shaped by a history of race relations which is quite different from London's. A white person in New York is much less likely (and conversely a black or Hispanic person is much more likely) to be murdered than the overall murder rate for the city might lead someone to think.

[–] GJdan 9 points 2 weeks ago

Oh, well, carry on then.

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