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It's a weird conclusion to take that the people working towards or excited about a world where AI robots have automated all labour and resources and services are free and near unlimited for everyone would want to limit that to only white people, or people who are rich now - since being 'rich' in a world with unlimited resources isn't really a concept.
I can only talk with certainty about myself, but I would hazard a guess that the majority of people excited about a post scarcity world are not part of the bourgeoisie, and see it as a way to solve the social injustice issues we see now but are powerless to do anything significant about, not to further exacerbate wealth inequality - there would be no motive to hoard resources in a world without scarcity, when you can have most of what you ever dreamed of and so can everyone else, including the people living in what were formerly third world countries.
It's a dream of a paradise, not a dystopia, and it's a dream people are actually working towards, to try and make the world better. What is the comic writer doing to make the world better? Donating a fraction of the money that current charities need? Tearing down other people's attempts at solutions? Complaining online about how other people aren't doing anything about the starving children in Africa?
Not to say there aren't legitimate fears of AI, such as a misaligned ASI being created that turns into a paperclip maximiser and destroys everything we care about. But that's a very different argument than what the comic writer is making.
We don't live in a limitless world. And adding robots will not change the limits. It just changes who does the work.
That's why I said near unlimited. Creating a Dyson swarm will give us near unlimited energy for anything we want to reasonable do. Robots can give us near unlimited food by working tirelessly on farms on O'Neill cylinders. The same cylinders can give us near unlimited space to live, while preserving the natural world on Earth.
Some people won't get their most outlandish fantasies, but the vast majority of people will get the vast majority of what they want, and everyone will get unlimited free time to be creative or socialise. Mandatory jobs, the great thief of time, will have been slain, assuming you believe the robots are not conscious. It would be a vast improvement on what we have now, for everyone.
So, mythical heaven? Religion made of machines. Spirituality from a piece of tech you hope to one day fix everything because of faith. Something that let's you ignore now and possible futures so you can have a singular one to believe in.
You do understand the comic. You are just are angry it called your god fiction.
I'm not sure where all the allusions to religion come from, or why you're so against a dream of a world where everyone is free from work and most suffering. Trying to fix the world now is admirable, and one way to do that is to work on long term solutions such as working on automation technology.
It's not faith to extrapolate that the advances we've made in automation so far are likely to extend to eventually almost all forms of work being automated. It's not faith, because I still admit the possibility that it may not happen. But imagining it happening, wanting it to happen, and trying to work on making it happen seems nothing but positive to me. And it's still not chauvinism, to refer to the earlier point. Do you still believe that, or have I managed to convince you of that point, at least?
When I became atheist, I figured “if God doesn’t exist, we’ll have to make heaven ourselves.”
And I believe we’ll do it, given enough time (probably hundreds/thousands of years).