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[–] [email protected] 85 points 1 month ago (20 children)

If I use this to fertilize my veggies, are they still vegan?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (11 children)

There are vegan blood meal alternatives out there to resolve this exact conundrum.

But the reality is, unless your plants are being grown hydroponically in a sealed warehouse or similar, chances are real good that they are feeding on decaying animals (either directly or indirectly) whether you like it or not. They're mostly insects and annelids and such, but still animals.

I think the issue for vegans is more about whether animal slaughter was involved in making their fertilizer. Dead pillbugs in the soil is just nature doing its cycle of life thing.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Humans are just as much part of nature as everything else

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

a common definition of nature is the stuff that is untouched by humans.

as wiktionary puts it:

flora and fauna as distinct from human conventions, art, and technology

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Some indigenous peoples cooperate with their natural environment. Humans are fundamentally a keystone species that's collectively gotten really bad at it, to get good at other things. We could have human conventions, art, and technology that works entirely with nature and our environment rather than against it. Between these facts, I'm not a fan of that definition.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Would that make invasive species unnatural? When does a disrupted ecosystem become natural again?

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