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Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).

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Rust in Linux lead retires rather than deal with more “nontechnical nonsense” (arstechnica.com)

submitted 2 weeks ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Linux people doing Linux things, it seems.

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 2 weeks ago (41 children)

Here's what I think. Both opinions are correct.

Rust is sufficiently different that you cannot expect C developers to learn rust to the level they have mastered C in order to be working at the kernel level. It's not going to happen.

I don't really know too much about rust. Maybe one day I'll actually mess around with it. But the one time I looked at a rust git repo I couldn't even find where the code to do a thing was. It's just different enough to be problematic that way.

So I think probably, the best way IS to go the way linus did. Just go ahead and write a very basic working kernel in rust. If the project is popular it will gain momentum.

Trying to slowly adapt parts of the kernel to rust and then complain when long term C developers don't want to learn a new language in order to help isn't going to make many friends on that team.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

RedoxOS! There's been solid progress too, beyond just having a functional microkernel, they have many of the userspace tools/their version of coreutils, even a desktop environment already mostly implemented!

My understanding is that it shouldn't be too bad to port some other things over as well. The main issue I had was just the lack of drivers, especially since it's still tricky even on Linux, and the microkernel architecture (though more secure) also means there's no way to reuse any of those from Linux

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Same with Ironclad kernel and OS written in Ada Programing language. Nice to see these systems development

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Gives me vibes of a second iteration of the OS writing boom. Though this time, the kernel mostly.

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