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Finally, another web engine is being developed to compete with Chromium and Firefox (Gecko), and they're also working on a browser that will use it.

Here's the maintainer talking about the current state of the project, and a demo of the current functionality

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 months ago (32 children)

Why is Swift bad?

Also, I noticed the project has taken donations from mostly non-foss companies. Let's hope they stand by their principles

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (17 children)

Welp, I haven't seen anyone learn Swift other than for Apple stuff these days. So I wonder how many can actually contribute to the code. It's also made by Apple, so yeah. It would have been more performant and secure (both of which are pretty important in a browser) if it was written in a more low level language. For example Rust.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (4 children)

“More performant” citation needed. Very well written Rust might be extremely fast, yes, but Rust is also a hard language to get right. Swift is far from a slow language and I would not be surprised if the average rust programmer barely if at all manages to beat out the average swift programmer in terms of speed. As for the amount of programmers interested, hard to tell, but given the sheer amount of Swift devs I’d not be surprised if there were quite a few interested ones and I am unconvinced Rust programmers are statistically more likely to be interested in Browser development.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)
[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Benchmarks mean nothing. These aren’t the results of code written by an average programmer. Edit: and as a general note I would also like to point out the relative inconsistency of the results in terms of factor, only further reinforcing my point. I like Rust and all but we do need to admit it doesn’t magically solve all our problems.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Benchmarks mean nothing.

You're free to suggest another method of comparing the two languages' performance. This is the best we're have, and Rust wins in every single benchmark shown there.

These aren’t the results of code written by an average programmer.

Citation needed.

I like Rust and all but we do need to admit it doesn’t magically solve all our problems.

I never said it did. I simply pointed out that it's demonstrably faster than Swift.

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