A generation's fault =/= the fault of every individual in that generation
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Correct. But climate change is specifically the fault only of this Grandma.
No snowflake thinks they're responsible for the avalanche
Except it literally is the fault of like 30 people. We can directly pinpoint the cause of the problem onto the actions of specific individuals.
Everyone else could have voted for regulation to prevent them from doing those things. You can't just expect corporations to not do evil if you allow them to. They're heavily incentivized by the system to be as evil as possible. The solution is to limit the amount of evil they're allowed to do.
Maybe for boomers generation we should bring back throwing the elderly off cliffs, then stop. It’ll make future generations wary of the tradition returning. 🤔
Nestle and Shell "yeah Grandma"
It's really not the fault of any individual. Well okay yes it is, but it's like 200 individuals at the very upper echelons of society.
Are we gonna ignore that literally everyone voted for Reagan in the 80s?
Except based Minnesota? Weird.
No more than we will never forget that Trump is the president that millenials voted for.
At least if we’re using ‘generational blame’ logic: good luck on explaining how you let trump in to the future generations.
“Trump lost the popular vote, kids. The Electoral College allows for small states to have oversized impacts on presidential elections.”
There you go.
It's so funny how OP and people like him took the bait from the big capitalists and now are complaining about old dudes that never had any power instead of the ones that had and have real power.
They have no clue that in the future they are the ones who will have fingers pointed at
Grandma must pay for her sins. We might not be able to save the world, but maybe we can avenge it.
I wish she would. But nooooo they are just gonna die while guzzling down her payments, for which I have to work 10 years longer for and will get less no matter what.
I AM SO SICK OF IT
Edit: I don't want to avenge anything anymore. I am just so tired of this hopeless situation, where no one who could do something, does anything to prevent it.
One thing I'm unsure of is whether warming is so bad because a) planet was warmer multiple time in prehistory and it led to abidance of life b) we live in interglacial period and if that perid ends we are going to fight much worse calamity and need much more energy. Even getting out could become life threatening.
On the other hand Venus situation is also not ideal.
disclaimer: opinion here ofc deciding if it is bad depends very much on the viewpoint. But yourself as a human should probably view it from the viewpoint of mankind in general. And then, yes, it is undoubtably bad. It is going to cost humankind an unimaginable amount of money and it'll increase inequality and unfairness in unimaginable amounts. That's also why there are so many people denying or not believing it. A lot of humans are uninformed or unable to grasp the issue on a logical level simply because of the scale of the issue.
Is it though? There are scientists who claim golf stream will stop but also that it won't. There are scientists claiming that warmer temperature will cause horrible food shortages etc but others who say it will also create better enviroment for plants (warm + CO2) which among others are main source of nutrition for humans and animals consumed by humans. It might even extend tropical life rich waters. Human understanding came far but it's still lacking. I'm all for nature preservertion but is building huge wind plants in middle of mountains forest gonna safe us or have any effect as oppose to negatively affecting nature?
We need reason and not sensationism to drive these changes, IMHO.
I didn't get notification but i cannot let stand your statement. You're just wrong. Pretty much all of scientists agree that it is unimaginably worse than good. Trying to argue about that is just yourself coping with denying the issue at hand.
Speed of change.
Natural climate changes happen over tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands of years
Not tens to hundreds of years.
You say that but I currently know middle managers from the gen x and millennial generation expecting people to drive into work when they could be running their businesses from home and should be minimalizing the emissions. Grandma didn’t make them do that.
Taylor swift and her private jet are of the millennial timeline.
I don’t know a lot of grandmas with a private jet.
And grandma isn’t providing you all with the plastic bottle waste. She isn’t forcing Coca Cola down your throat. Which btw is still being enjoyed by millenials who still are keeping these giant assholes in business. Grandma didn’t make you do that.
Grandmas aren’t forcing you to drive a combustible engine car.
Grandmas aren’t calling up to make the oil companies dump into the sea.
Grandmas aren’t releasing c8 into all the water infecting everyone just so you can have some non stick floss.
These are current day decisions. They are STILL current day decisions of the current generation in power of decision to continue to use, take advantage of, build on top of or change.
so don’t shuffle off the blame off yourself and your own generation are doing to your grandma for what these fuck faces are continuing to be doing in the current generations running the show. They have their own free will and choice to fuck us all up with their selfish behaviour.
If anything: grandmas may have even taught a few people how to knit. And cook frugal with little food because some even lived through a war. Those are actually sustainable hobbies believe it or not. That’s not something you can ‘attribute’ to current day generations for all the shit they partake in that isn’t sustainable. /rant over.
First, it's a meme. The context is the grandma is of the generation since the meme is a known thing. It's not specifically calling out grandmas. That seems a bit lost on you.
Second, they did make the decisions we are currently in and fought to make it conventional knowledge. They allowed the mechanisms of balance within the government to go so far off the scale that coming back it so daunting I am not sure how it can get there.
And third, it's a joke. Jokes have hints of truths and hints of fiction. They should provocative healthy discussions. It comes off as super aggressive at some meme. No one is attacking you personally by posting this.
If you are pissed at the situation, I understand. I'm pissed too.
The "okay boomer" era of the internet came and went. Idiotic to blame climate change on an 80 year old person when we know exactly who paid for and then covered up the data suggesting manufacturing and transportation was harming the planet and ourselves.
October was never cold. You're gaslighting yourself
Coal shoveling anti vax boomer alert!
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I dunno, I'm pretty cold right now.
Where do you live?