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I don't know if you've noticed this, but threads or comments about Lemmy or the Fediverse get downvoted a lot on Reddit and trolls who claim that it's "dogshit" and "not going anywhere" get systematically upvoted.

Some of those trolls get then exposed when you ask them what Lemmy instance they tried and one of them with whom I had a surreal exchange answered with something like "yeah ofc I used Lemmy, this is the instance: join-lemmy.org" πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ

It's frustrating that these trolls keep contributing to the big lie that "Lemmy is not ready yet" and that there's "no viable alternative to Reddit".

This and the overwhelming number of comments being "against the mod protests" just prompts me to question whether there isn't some brigading being organized straight from the Reddit HQ.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well as long as people are talking about Lemmy, that's good for us. Any publicity is good publicity.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I came here to look to see if this topic was covered. I just checked my mod queue and ever single post made by my automod OR other users about Lemmy was reported multiple times for "harassment" with 40+ down votes as well. I've literally never had a full mod queue that was more than 6 things before and I had 30 or more posts to approve with 3 being actual things. What the fuck.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Wouldn't be surprised at all if it's reddit themselves reporting and downvoting posts with bots. Spez doesn't have a clean track record after all.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

The comments/replies to my comments that really chapped my ass were when someone was defending ads and trying to claim they didn't even know there were third party apps and we were just being babies. I don't want to have to watch two unskippable ads like YouTube just to see a meme or comment in an AskReddit or be bombarded with gas pill ads between every front page post because I typed "why am I farting more than normal?" In a toolbar five years ago, and I'm not being a baby because I don't want to give up my working product for a shit alternative that turns me into a product. I feel like Reddit is Pied Piper from 'Silicon Valley' where they hired a shit load of trolls in an office in New Delhi to gaslight us and drive up support for a highly disliked business path.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I reckon it's mostly bots set up by Reddit admins and sad-sack mods who consider Reddit moderation to be a full-time job

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This place is becoming an echo chamber.

I don't doubt that there are bots in the comments on Reddit (as if that can even be disputed) but pretending like nobody could possibly just not be interested in moving to lemmy is wrong. There's lots of teething troubles here still which need to be resolved before most people will consider it. Whinging about astroturfing comment sections isn't gonna make dankmemes or pcmasterrace come to lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I've spoken to people IRL who say that the protests are pointless, even if I show them a new community growing because of them. There is probably some shenanigans involved in the volume of anti-protest activity, but there are plenty Redditors with Stockholm Syndrome to give them credibility

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There's definitely corpo sockpuppets and bots involved, some of which have even straight up posted AI bot warnings about not being able to generate offensive content (oops!) but there's plenty of ignorant people too.

That said, I'm kind of OK with them staying on reddit because people like that had been making reddit progressively worse for years and years at it gained popularity. Hopefully the relative obscurity of Lemmy will prevent that from happening for a while yet.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

As long as they do it on Reddit I really donβ€˜t care anymore. Probably with the IPO Reddit will run all sorts of "opinion forming" bots and ban dissidents and so on to make sure they seem like they got the community behind them.

I just hope they leave us alone here and mostly anti-spez people come to form new communities here.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It wouldn't surprise me, a lot of people don't care or just aren't interested in change.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Honestly I'm quite alright with that. If we can get a good core user base on here it'll feel like reddit did earlier in it's life. Once the masses came and posts regularly had over 10k upvotes the content began feeling more and more soulless.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Let them stay there then. We can't force people to join us here. If they choose to believe those kind of brigading comments then they do not have the level of critical thinking to become a meaningful contributor to any site. Those who wanted to move have already moved. Those remaining there are those who chose to ignore the issue, or support reddit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

@AlmightySnoo "Bots brigading against Lemmy"

FTFY

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