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At least I subscribed to [email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 96 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Yeah, we need to spread out a little more. Fediverse is not about having centralized concentrations that can be targetted.

Ideally every minor Instance could have one major community located there, that could serve as the central space for that particular community. That's pretty impossible of course, but it paints the picture.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago

I'm running a small instance, thelemmy.club

We even have built in Voyager/WefWef at app.thelemmy.club :P

I don't advertise is too often as I'm not trying to get huge, we have about 120 users and have been up a month. But we have plenty of resources to grow a little.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Mine is sorta like this, it's pretty quiet but then also happens to have the biggest Steam Deck community.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

It's also got the biggest community covering the Russo-Ukrainian war: [email protected]

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It has a few niche communities. [email protected] was the first community on your server that I subscribed to.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Anarchychess was the reason I joined sopuli.xyz, before I understood how the Fediverse worked.

All of reddit could burn, but I needed my en passant fix.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Tinfoil hat theory: OG Lemmyheads are attacking the big centralized communities and taking them down in order to force all the new users to spread amongst the smaller instances like we're supposed to, preventing inevitable corporate control of the ActivityPub platform

I doubt that's anywhere close to the truth but I choose to believe it, crusty old hackers pulling the plug on their children for our own good

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As possible as anything else, but it would be unusual. I find it strange that people are so eager to reach for unusual explanations when the actual, conventional extremist trolls absolutely exist. This would be 100% in-character for them, and would benefit their goals very clearly.

Occam's Razor.

Additionally, they would try to point the finger at absolutely everyone except for them, as that would clearly serve their goals of general misinformation and distrust.

[–] JackbyDev 8 points 1 year ago

To be totally clear, they literally said it's a tinfoil theory. To me that implies they're just wildly speculating.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why can't we have community tags for grouping? Like have a "tag" you can subscribe to that encompasses all "meme" communities, or "politics", etc. Then if something goes down people can default to whatever. Maybe you could even make it so if you wanted to post you could post it into tag and the tag decides based off metrics which community to actually post it in? Idk, maybe I am dumb. But that seems cool.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

That's actually not a bad idea. It'd be cool to have communities, community tags, and post tags. You could choose to sort by whichever you want. You could go to a community, or you could just look at the "solarpunk" tag if you want, similar to Twitter I guess.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

For communities, I feel like a good solution would be to let mods link similar communities from different instances together, sorta like an automatic cross post.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Ideally every minor Instance could have one major community located there, that could serve as the central space for that particular community. That’s pretty impossible of course, but it paints the picture.

You could probably do that if you had a centralised coordinator who could assi... I'll see myself out.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Part of the problem is discoverability. If people don't use my instance, they rarely know we have independent communities like [email protected]. Some, like [email protected] are really shadowed by larger versions where some sort of multi community subscription could help a lot.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I feel like we’re seeing the inherent flaws of the fediverse here in some aspects. A completely democratic spread or spread in general of communities doesn’t seem like it’s going to work. Real people and infrastructure are behind making sure instances with communities that serve large amounts of user requests stay up and operable. Infrastructure costs people and money, and people with right skills and fundraising skills are not evenly distributed.

If an instance touts itself to be a mega-instance, that’s one thing. Lemmy is still a confusing place to understand if I should create my own community or join one. Some communities and instances have a lot more % active users and moderators than others.

People are also lazy. Hosting your own instance is “easy” until you have a popular community, or handful of popular communities. Unless you treat it like a job, not a whole lot of people are interested in spending time figuring out fundraising and dev ops to ensure their community can deal with future user growth.

Money, talent, and physical infrastructure aren’t evenly and fairly available. So it makes it difficult to produce a federated universe that doesn’t reflect these things.

Can’t expect new users to go down the rabbit hole of trying to understand what instance they should make an account on. All instances will grow over time and we are seeing a lot of unevenness because of factors stated above. Instances will surely balance out as time goes on, so I think whoever is prematurely attacking large instances—whether they are doing so for fediverse axiom related issues or not—is making fundamental mistakes of fediverse theory.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Like the anchor tenant of a shopping mall.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I highly recommend spreading out and creating accounts on other instances. Whenever one instance has issues or something, I just use another. That's the strength of the fediverse.

Plus, you might find (or create) some cool local posts, which helps spread out content.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Mastodon account also works as a backup since you can subscribe to communities and post comments from there.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

truly tragic, communities should have never centralised on the top instances.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Centralization is natural, even in the fediverse. A successful lemmy is going to look like tens of large instances, a few hundred medium instances, and a ton of tiny and irrelevant instances. Even if federation and discovery get more transparent it's still likely going to be mostly centralized.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There's only one person to blame for the sudden explosion of users of a new and undeveloped system. I see this all as a good thing to happen in the beginning, as it will help improve and solidify solutions now, rather than years later when things are more established. There will be shuffling and mirroring of communities, and tools made to help in that cause, and all of that will make the overall fediverse better.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When I'm sorting by all, instead of local or subscribed communities/magazines, everything I see comes from lemmy.world. It looks like Kbin/Sopuli/Beehaw are just a desert, until you sort by local and, aleluyah, there is updated content.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Probably, but I'm not sure, those words are very strange to me in English.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Well you're doing better than most English speakers, and you got the word close enough to understand what you were saying. It's a strange word in english anyway

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I guess I'm lucky to be on lemmy.ca, but it's concerning that a lot of the popular stuff is located on two servers. What's the point of the fediverse, then?

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, after what happened to VLemmy I decided to start my own instance, that way as long as I maintain it I know for a fact that it won't just go down.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

I keep seeing Vlemmy mentioned but I guess I missed the drama. Did the server admin unexpectedly shut the server down?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Pretty much, just vanished off the face of the earth. Donation links got shut down too. I've seen some discussions alleging there was an incident with law enforcement (A user uploaded "japanese underage child" content to the server, which was illegal in vlemmy's juristiction - ireland IIRC?) and shortly after that the server disappeared

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While other instances are down, sh.itjust.works

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Except when sh.itjust.works went down later too lol

https://lemmy.world/post/1604919

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I had to jump on my Kbin. I should probably create a 3rd account just as another backup.

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