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It was a shower thought for me this morning, after having seen all these record temperatures being broken around the world.

But, if it gets too hot to cycle, then people won't. And if they aren't cycling, they may start driving again, which compounds climate change even further.

Does this worry anyone else?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

You probably won't get most people to switch to bikes by selling them on fighting climate change anyway. You get them to switch to bikes by making it more convenient to bike than to car. This requires a ratchet of policy that deemphasizes car infrastructure and invests in bike infra instead. That investment can include climate change accomodations like adding trees or artificial shading to bike paths/lanes or more aid stations with water/misters/cooling.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That vast majority of emissions aren't from individual commutes to work or the store, but from industrial processes and transportation. Increasing heat will lead people to stay inside in general, which will raise electric demands, leading to more emissions, though.

I could be wrong about the commute spiral, I don't have any hard numbers, it's just a guess.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The effect of switching from cars to bike is significant. .

But the best example we have of this is how cities with terrible smog suddenly cleared up during the pandemic, when there were fewer cars on the road and people got out to bike in record numbers.

But, I do agree that being forced to stay indoors would have indirect side effects on the environment.

It'll be interesting to see how, or even if, humans will solve this problem.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh, yeah. I was mainly just thinking about global climate change, but I could see it having a large impact on local air quality.

I'm fairly pessimistic about the long term odds of beating climate change.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

global climate change

Yeah, this one takes far more time to solve, but as individuals, we can still have some sway!

A vegan cyclist, for example, who doesn't fly or spend time on a cruise ship can hit several major contributors to greenhouse gases with little effort. If they use green energy, that's another major industry down. How they decide to shop can tackle a few more.

Who they vote for can also impact those areas that they have no direct influence over (i.e. certain manufacturing industries of raw materials).

This is all very easy to do on an individual basis, and don't affect one's quality of life, but multiply that by a million or a billion people and we WILL see a positive change.

The hard part is convincing someone to make easy changes to their life. 😩

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A few cars on the road isn't going to make a significant difference. The problem is the massive factories and industry churning out more greenhouse gases than we ever could with our measly automobiles.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Individually, not a significant difference, but when we're talking about the potential for millions of cyclists to avoid riding, the impact would be felt.

But yeah, large factories also need to calm the hell down if we are to stand any chance of surviving the next 50 years of climate change.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Take a couple cargo ships of the seas, that would offset a lot of cars.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Did you know its illegal to say that one strong hit with a 20ft speedboat at full throttle into the hull of a cargo ship in the section the two sheets of metal are welded on the broadside of the ship where the rivets are the weakest would take the ship down for repairs for months if not sinking it outright?

Totally, recklessly wildly illegal.

Now, it was okay for me to say it now because I was warning you not to say it. I wasn't saying it myself.

What IS legal to say is that we have a group that meets under the Brooklyn bridge 23:00 on Sundays and the password is sic semper tyrannis.

Its not a fitting sentence because it has nothing to do with the previous statement, but it is technically legal!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

What fucking boat is riveted these days? And what the fuck are you on about?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

nope as it's not too hot to cycle in general, maybe during some hours at some specific days of summer but the overall year is completely nice

yeah, I'm telling you from barcelona and here there's no snow and ice on the roads/trails I use to cycle it's true but there's much more equipment and tires to cycle on winter conditions, so you can adapt your bike to winter, than the 0 equipment and components to cycle on hot, summer, conditions

winter wins, always