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We are digital librarians. Among us are represented the various reasons to keep data -- legal requirements, competitive requirements, uncertainty of permanence of cloud services, distaste for transmitting your data externally (e.g. government or corporate espionage), cultural and familial archivists, internet collapse preppers, and people who do it themselves so they're sure it's done right. Everyone has their reasons for curating the data they have decided to keep (either forever or For A Damn Long Time (tm) ). Along the way we have sought out like-minded individuals to exchange strategies, war stories, and cautionary tales of failures.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, because most of them have data to download anyway, so if they go down, the APK itself will be useless.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you backup /obb's, it usually won't. From Android 1.0 - 11, that should be fine.

The hard part is with newer Androids that block access to the /Android/data/obb trees.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

There's many ways to access obb, like use the built-in file manager.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think many would be incompatible or will be, soon

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

you can still run them with an android emulator

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Its still opening but what I meant is that even with OBBs and other datas, some games still wouldn't run.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I think you could decompile and recompile them if needed, but I don't know much about Android/apk related stuff

but most android apps are made in java which runs on a JVM

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

If you keep a device old enough to run them it’s fine

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

if you enjoy hoarding stuff like this then it's worth it. 8GB of space for such a massive archive is really not that much, so it's not like it is costing you anything to archive them.

If you don't want to hold on to these files for whatever reason, upload them somewhere such as archive.org then other people can hoard them if they choose to do so. I bet there is something in there that someone has been looking for, and I guess that's what hoarding data is all about, making sure that media, in this case games, don't get lost to time like many have.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Make sure to have different versions of Android on tap as well. Custom roms from XDS would be a good place to start.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Update: I am fairly new to the nature of this sub and I realized I made a mistake. I should have asked if anyone here wants to hoard these files for me as I am already clearing my APK files. Tbf I havent touched these apks for almost 7+ years.

For additional context, I am not rich and I only have 2TB storage for data hoarding.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

For 8GB you can store on the cloud as well for free. Gdrive, filen, icedrive, koofr etc.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'm more than willing to take on your hoard if you want to share. I've been meaning to get into APK cataloging.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Asking someone else to store them for you is not data hoarding, it's being cheap.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

for only 8 gigs i wouldn't even bother thinking about it tbh

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Most of them are not in playstore anymore and this folder includes OBBs. I tried running some of them but unfortunately they dont run anymore. At least on android 9+. I have deleted them now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Are you mad??

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No offense, but that was stupid. It's 8 gigabyte. It doesn't cost you anything to keep 8 GB around. If you're really needing that space just get a flash drive or something and save it somewhere.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know but I have to let them go I guess for my mental health too. I just hope this wont be me back in the future.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

So on the grand scheme of things, someone out there is definitely holding on to them so no harm no foul. That being said, what the guy at the top comment implied is that 8GB is such a small amount of space that you shouldn't even have to "worry" about keeping it, just keep it because its so small it won't do you no harm to have it around.

Or dump it into data hoarders and let someone else take the storing burden.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I would assume you could emulate an older version of Android and run them on that?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You could have tried on an older android device first. But for 8 gigs, I wouldn't even have bothered. I'd just throw them in a bucket and be done with it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Or emulator

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Idk why people are downvote u lol, if they don't work and hold no value to you anymore, there's no reason to keep it, whether it's 100gb, 100gb or 100mb.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The downvotes are because OP made this post asking if is worth it to keep it. Then goes on and deletes them anyway. Why ask if you've already decided what you were going to do in the first place.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Android 14 won't run any of these old apps (only allows 64 bit) so it was pointless to keep anyway.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Ooh, so much better versions of games you have

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Share them so no more get deleted

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Absolutely, I got drives full of all sorts from the last 20 years

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have 500 gigs of media(sitcoms and movies)

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Anything you find value in keeping safe is worth saving

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's worth it to hoard anything.

Except for CP of course.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Club Penguin content is 100% worth hoarding

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even CP worth hoarding... if you are one of those dudes working on filters to detect it

don't ask woman about her age

don't ask man about his salary

don't ask ML specialist how they made model capable of detecting illegal content

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'd add:

don't ask the sysadmin why they had to go testify in court

It's never good.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Except for CP of course.

Yes, Officer this is the guy I was talking about.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Considering how often a game or app gets taken down from the play store or simply refuses to install because its not been updated for your version of android, (even though the game will likely work just fine) I would highly recommend archiving APK files.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Do you have any Jackass or Jackass related games?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

How do you keep up with updates?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The biggest problem is all the data that's lost because many games are sideloading content/updates on their own. So we need not only the apk's (which are also important of course) but all the extra stuff/real content which has to be dumped from the devices.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

8 gigs isn't really alot so I would say it's worth it tbh

Also lots of older data is getting way harder to find now, so it might be useful for you in the future too

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Would you be willing to share this? Torrent or any method that is easy for you?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I would say yes.... for the following reasons:

- some mobile games get updated often, with the new versions being worse than older ones, or having content cut from them etc...

- then there are a lot of games that never gotten updated for a long time, and can no longer be installed and run on modern devices

- perhaps there are a lot of delisted games from the Google play store since 2016?

So I think this collection of yours does have some archival value! :)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

A lot of old mobile games become lost media. Absolutely 100% worth it. I would honestly recommend you to see if you have some lost media in there

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This is gonna bite you in the ass one day.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Not to discourage you, but I have nearly 10TB of apk files and I still think its not enough haha

I started with small, so you can

Good luck!

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