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Over the last few days, it seems that filtering by Hot or Active just makes me see the same posts I've seen over the last few days (stealing memes meme and $4k fridge).

Filtering by New on Lemmy, however, is not the toxic filth that Reddit is, and generally gets the job done.

Unless I am doing something wrong, Hot and Active seem to not update enough / hide what I've already seen. I am doing my Subscribed, about 20 subs.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This has been the same experience for me, Active/Hot shows posts from Monday because they're still gaining comments but New shows genuinely new posts. I think the algorithm may simply not be tuned for tens of thousands of users

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Known bug, will be fixed in 0.18. Certain edge cases cause the hot_rank to not decrease, meaning they never leave the front page.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Is there a planned release date for 0.18?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Copy-pasting from my other answer here:

Trite answer: When it’s done

More in-depth answer: Currently there’s no set date. It depends on how quickly they can tear out all the WebSockets code and replace it with simple HTTP (that’s the BIG change, will fix a lot of different things), and then test those changes. The hot_rank fix has already been merged, that’s done, but they want a stable, cohesive release with all the good stuff.

Current estimations I’ve seen range from 1-2 weeks, but it all depends on how fast they can get it coded and tested.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Why are they getting rid of WebSockets? Shouldn’t this be good in terms of handling large amounts of users?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Looks like it depends on the instance as to when they will roll it out I know lemm.ee is currently updating

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

top.day isn't bad if you want some more developed posts with lively comment sections, and I believe it's guaranteed to rotate every 24h. But yeah, hot is broken on a lot of servers right now (should be fixed in v0.18.0), and active isn't aging out some of the monster posts that people keep reviving with new comments.

But yeah, I mostly browse new right now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

and active isn’t aging out some of the monster posts that people keep reviving with new comments.

I think when the Hot sort gets fixed, this should also fix Active - since half the reason those threads remain active is that they got frozen in Hot on one instance or another.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You could try to untick the show read posts on your profile. That helped my viewing experience even I am on either hot or active.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nice, didn't know that was an option.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Just keep in mind it will hide posts you submit, so if you want to check on your own OP you have to unselected it again.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is there any way to hide posts that you've already voted on? That would be my preference.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I think you have to tap on the post and then the website would then know you’ve read the post and then it hides it. I don’t think Lemmy would hide it after voting on it and not expanding on the post you’ve interacted with.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

It's unfortunate, but there seems to be a bug affecting the other two views.

So, it's only really for now that "new" is the best option: right now it's the only one functioning correctly.

[–] sisyphean 9 points 1 year ago

I’ve found this post by filtering by new :)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

It's also very healthy for the community at large, IMO.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I've found this true as well. I read on All/New to see everything. The growth rate at the moment is high, so there are lots of posts from magazines in other instances. I subscribe to the ones I find interesting and eventually will switch to Subscribed/New.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

filtering by new is the best way to browse anything. I always change my shit to make that the default setting.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Try kbin.social. As far as I know they are the only server that has a Frontpage that updates regularly.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

The problem with kbin is that navigating to individual subscribed "magazines" is a shit experience. You have to go into your settings. Also why is it called magazine? It just doesn't match with any mental concepts IMHO.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This. Tried both kbin and a lemmy instance and although the kbin experience at the beginning of the week was shit (slow and no federation) there was still more new content on then Frontpage than on lemmy (or I was using it wrong).

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