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By occupying or operating a Nissan vehicle you automatically agree to their dogshit ToS and privacy policy. You give Nissan the right to collect and sell the following data:

"Name, email address, phone number, mailing address, geolocation, zip code, age, date of birth, driver’s license number, national or state identification number, citizenship status, immigration status, race, national origin, religious or philosophical beliefs, sexual orientation, sexual activity, precise geolocation, health diagnosis data, and genetic information, social security number as an employee, service or warranty information regarding vehicles, employment and related information, such as employee identification number National or State Identification Numbers, and dependent information for the administration of certain employee benefits or programs.. Also: Inferences drawn from any Personal Data collected to create a profile about a consumer reflecting the consumer’s preferences, characteristics, psychological trends, predispositions, behavior, attitudes, intelligence, abilities, and aptitudes Vehicle- and driving-related information: the vehicle’s operation including, without limitation, Vehicle Identification Number (VIN), geolocation and navigation information, speed and distance information, driving habit and style, battery use management information (for electric vehicles), battery charging history (for electric vehicles), battery deterioration information (for electric vehicles), electrical system functions, diagnostic trouble codes, maintenance conditions, software version information, and other data, your use of the vehicle and any corresponding services, websites and smartphone applications, vehicle status information (e.g., information about door locks, open doors, engine status, etc.), data about accidents involving the vehicle (e.g., the direction from which the vehicle was hit, and which air bags have deployed)."

And that's just Nissan. Privacy Not Included* reviewed many other car brands in their report

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

Pulled the fuse on the DCM and disconnected the shark fin in my Toyota. Eat shit Corpos.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I would love to buy a dumb EV - you know, a car with an electric drivetrain and everything manual in it. No smarts, no firmware update, no digital display, no entertainment, no nothing. Just a car. Even manual crank windows are okay for me. What isn't okay is any sort of internet connection.

Sadly, that's not a thing. I don't even think you can buy any new car these days - EV or gasoline - that doesn't have some kind of data link to the manufacturer, and I'm pretty it's been like that for many years. I wouldn't know, my car is 25 years old and I usually ride the bus anyway. But that is my understanding.

If someone can point me to a nice, recent, lightweight, aerodynamic and totally manual electric car, I'd be eternally grateful.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

It's it possible even to buy a decent EV that doesn't have connectivity and data-harvesting tech built in?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe this is a stupid question, but as someone that has only ever bought a used car, and as someone that hasn't bought a car newer than a 2015, do they actually give you a TOS to "read" and sign?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

In some cars I've rented there's a popup that appears every time you turn on the infotainment

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I worked for one of the major automaker's, and I can confirm that the company I worked for has horrendous privacy.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Holy what the actual bleep bloop blop?! Social security numbers? Sexual activity and orientation? Credit/debit card numbers, expiration dates and cvv?! This is at least as scary as bad actors gaining control of your car while driving where they can drive the car. I just read pertinent parts to a friend that road trips a lot between family members, they asked “how are they allowed to do that?” My reply? “Government doesn’t work for us.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'll just get an old 1990s Volvo station wagon...I'm living by myself anyways, so not trying to pickup chics...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Wait, isn't being alone the reason you WANT to pick up chicks?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

If it's "smart" in techbro marketing terms, it's there to collect data and sell your data. Period.

[–] MXX53 4 points 1 year ago

This is why I drive a 90 accord. Windows and locks aren't even electronic.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

62 vw beetle is where its at! My dad had one all the way through highschool, now I've got one through college!