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[–] [email protected] 0 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 0 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 0 points 17 hours ago

Maybe he means that America has always treated Italians with the utmost respect, maybe except when they were treated like utter garbage when their poor, tired, unwashed masses showed up on the shores of the USA.

Not exactly allies during WW2, unless he means Mussolini's ideals and Trump's ideals share similar political threads.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

This makes sense. How else could the US take over the British airports during the revolutionary war without our history with Rome?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 18 hours ago (5 children)

He's fucking retarded.

2024 and this guy is using “retarded” as a slur and not being downvoted? Lame.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 16 hours ago (5 children)

Did u just ableistize

You can’t say “lame”, six or seven people associate it with disabilities so it’s offensive

(JK, “retarded” is dumb to say though cuz it’s like 60 or 70 percent of people who associate it with disabilities)

Yeah that’s my tangent, my 2024 guide for being a normal human:

  • retard bad
  • lame reclaimed (or unlikely to remind 98% of people of handicaps)

Open to other opinions!

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Assuming someone's gender while virtue signaling?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

”virtue signaling” lol hop offline and have an original thought, I beg of you

[–] [email protected] 0 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

Was it your idea the retard is a bad word?

Otherwise it's not an original thought either

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 16 hours ago

Just don’t have opinions when someone else might have a different one

(But only if you are being nice)

Stop external communication of internal perspectives you lefty!

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (22 children)

False, according to snopes:

What Trump actually said, in his opening remarks during the press conference, was as follows: “The United States and Italy are bound together by a shared cultural and political heritage dating back thousands of years, to ancient Rome …”

Edit: Even after reading this quote twice, I can't really understand what Trump wanted to say.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 16 hours ago

He means they're both White countries.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 16 hours ago

It’s white supremacy, he’s talking about whiteness.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 16 hours ago

I mean yeah, fascism.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

And it's from 2019. Why was this even posted?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 17 hours ago

Alright, you might wanna sit down for this. Hate to be the one breaking it to you, buuut the Internet is not always a rational place...

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 18 hours ago

Thanks for the fact checking. You're doing God's work.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I think he meant culture and politics has been similar since the time of ancient Rome, maybe thinking the United States existed that long ago.

It did not.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 18 hours ago (4 children)

To play the ultimate Devil's Advocate, the Romans did leave a lasting cultural impact on Brittain. So in a way we have a cultural bloodline that is distantly connected to Rome.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

The American system is a direct descendant of Enlightenment Classicism, which includes a respect for the Classical Republics. Athens, Rome, Thebes, etc.

American federal government and arguably as a result liberalism is quite literally an imitation and attempt at modernization of the Roman Republic, which is, among other things, why we adopted the eagle as a national symbol and have a fasces in the House of Representatives.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Ridiculous, I suppose next you'll say that the US government has a senate that meets in a columned building!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 17 hours ago

This devil has more than enough advocates. Don't join them even for a bit.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

It's diplomacy, what you don't say is more important then what you do say.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 18 hours ago

There's not a lot this man doesn't say.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 19 hours ago

So the thing he actually said is even dumber.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 19 hours ago

He probably likes how the US is similar to the Roman Empire in being imperialist.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 19 hours ago

Imperialism I suppose.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 19 hours ago

Weird,

Trump already says a bunch of stupid shit on his own.

Not sure why someone would make the OP and make shit up.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I think he's talking about the influence of Roman ideas on western culture.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

No, don't rationalize the crazy.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

It doesn't look like something that he wrote himself, and it does make sense. Wikipedia even has an article about it.

Trump says a lot of nonsense, but something isn't nonsense just because Trump said it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Edit: Even after reading this quote twice, I can’t really understand what Trump wanted to say.

Can anyone ever?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

My take is that he sees himself as Julius Caesar reincarnate, overthrower of the Republic and the first emperor of the USA. If you read about the last days of the Republic there are so many historically rhyming events that with the current state of America, a repeat of history seems almost inevitable. A spate of military wins means Rome becomes very rich very quickly, disband rival military power whick leads to pirates and banditry, widespread extremes of wealth and poverty, politicians riling the public up into a frenzy with populist talking points, using corrupt judiciary system to punish their political opponents, plebs forcing themselves in on senate discussions, Krassus was a mega oligarch banker who bankrolled politicians and held debts as favours to call on, the Bona Dea scandal, Clodius being unceremoniously taken to court for sneaking into a women-only festival, who is betrayed by another political rival only to then be equitted (jury was bribed), and the subsequent crossing of the Rubicon by Caesar, leading to insurrection, more political assassinations, and the fall of the Republic.

Trump aspires to be as awful and as "great" as the conniving ruling class of ancient Rome, because he us just as morally bankrupt as many of them.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 18 hours ago

It doesn’t matter if what he says makes sense or is true; if he says it confidently and double downs on it, people will be convinced (or be coerced to agree)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Imagine having to translate such nonsense.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 16 hours ago

The Olympics did it better

(More difficult than I imagined to find articles about it, there are plenty though from random sources)

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Philip K Dick intensifies...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 19 hours ago

I've been reading science fiction all my life. I've seen stuff in the past few years that makes Robert Heinlein's 'The Crazy Years' look like the Age of Reason.

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