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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I loved it

[–] [email protected] 5 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Yep. This greentext is all just "dont threaten me with a good time". Let anon fawn over one another's griftcoin acumen and wallow in their oblivious unfuckability.

Short of DS9, Discovery is my fav ✨️

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (6 children)

What's the "gay agenda" reference for TNG?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I also don't think the TNG cast is particularly overly-emotional.

Plus TNG didn't retcon Klingon appearance, it had been that way for like 10 years already by that point, from the TOS films.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

The TNG cast is pretty human. They don't avoid anger, happiness, frustration, empathy, sexual tension, etc.

To the chuds of 4chan, showing a normal range of human emotion is over emotional, which this greentext is mocking.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (7 children)

First one that comes to mind is "The Outcast". Not really gay, but for anyone who is triggered by anything different they would consider it "woke".

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yeah, I was gonna say I don't remember anybody being gay in TNG. Am I missing something?

Oh, and IMO the cast of TNG is the opposite of emotional. They are calm and collected 90% of the time. 5% is Riker being horny, and the other 5% is Picard losing his shit over the amount of lights or something.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

retconned Klingons to look super weird

TBF the Klingons were retconned in TMP

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

From now on, every Star Trek show should change the appearance of the Kinglons and the Trill. And also add a new color of Andorians.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

Polka dot Andorians

DO IT YOU PUSSIES

Discovery did update the look of the Ferengi for the 32nd Century, looked kinda cool in my opinion. I can handwave a lot of stuff from Season 3 onwards of Discovery because it's nearly a thousand years ahead of what TNG/VOY/DS9 are at. Things gonna change so meh, tweaks like that don't bother me so much.

I will 100% admit to absolutely fucking hating Discovery when it was originally launched. The Klingons were one of the reasons although not a primary one. Took a while for me to come around and even now I'm like "Eh, I don't mind it." I did appreciate trying to alien them up a little bit more while trying to keep some stuff the same. Season 2 had an okay blend of that.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Star Trek: Oops All Politics (and it always fucking has been)

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[+] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I love Disco but it’s not exactly Trek.

Well, it sort of is due to it being a Star Trek show. That sentence is extremely gatekeepy. It assumes that Star Trek is definable in what type of show it creates (it isn't), is uniform in its types of shows (it isn't) and that anything different than status quo is not applicable. It's utterly nonsense and the same nonsense that was parroted about TNG, and DS9 and Voyager and Enterprise and every other show that wasn't TOS. Remember everyone whining about the Kelvin timeline and "ItS nOt ReAl StAr TrEk!" Sure seems like most of them are gone now and the movies are getting loved.

Star Trek goes out of its way to scream about diversity, to allow differences and celebrate those, and that not every path has to be the same. I don't understand the insistence that the shows themselves cannot be diverse either.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The themes of celebrating diversity are absolutely the same. The difference I see is mainly the cinematography, story structure, and pacing. SNW and Lower Decks are a lot closer to what Trek has been in those aspects than Discovery was.

Again: Not saying Disco is bad at all. (Except for having a reaction shot of every one of the dozens of people on the bridge any time anything interesting happens. Those irk me.)

EDIT: After further consideration, I've decided that Disco is Trek, but it's a series of Trek movies and not a series of TV episodes. But the last season is still the same premise as Andromeda.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (11 children)

My guy, that's nonsense. Suggesting that Discovery is too different to be Star Trek is just hilariously bad. That presumes that the cinemetography, story structure and pacing has been consistent with no dramatic changes across TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY, ENT or the Kelvin films.

That comparison just does not make sense. TOS and TMP couldn't be more different. Nevermind TAS or how dark DS9 is.

I'm not saying that you're saying Discovery is bad. I'm saying that you're suggestion that it isn't real Trek because there's too much variation is nonsense and an affront to the series that pushes diversity more than anyone else.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Disclaimer: Only Trek I had watched beforehand was Lower Decks (loved it) and SNW (loved it) in that order. With that said, here are my opinions nobody asked for:

S1 had its flaws but I was there for dark, depressing, and moody.
SNW cast carried the fuck out of S2 and the plot was good too imo.
First half of S3 was promising...but they fucked it up so utterly and completely in the second half that it was hard to take the rest of the show seriously afterwards.

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SPOILER START
They COMPLETELY lost me with the source of the burn, it was one of the dumbest things I've seen in a hot minute.

They had me again with the Giorgio redemption stuff in S4(?), but it was all downhill from there.

SPOILER END

I had to forward through starting from the second half of Season 4 just to get through it. It got so ridiculously boring. I was hoping it'd get better and I could watch normally again but it just didn't.

Watching TNG now and I'm loving it. Can be a bit slow sometimes but still enjoyable.

Edit: Does boost not do spoiler tags?

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