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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Aw crap. Glad they survived. Also shows the value of actual military vehicles over shitty technicals.

Not sure they would have fared as well in an unarmoured Hilux, Navara or Triton.

Something that surprised me is that there isn't a better way to collect used cartridges from the machine gun at the top.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also shows the value of actual military vehicles over shitty technicals.

But HMMWVs vulnerability to mines and IEDs is what triggered the development of the original US MRAP family, so everyone surviving is probably more of a case speaking against the type of mine they hit rather than for the vehicle's mine resistence.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Absolutely. In a perfect world, we would supply enough MRAPs, Busmasters and similar vehicles to Ukrainian infantry.

Unfortunately we don't have enough for our own needs. The Australian military still has G-Wagons. We do have plenty of M113's and Humvees.

Sure, they're not as good as the bigger troop transpors, but: what are the alternatives? Usually unarmoured technicals. Realistically speaking, we don't even have enough of those! I donated to NAFO's 69th sniffing brigade to buy vehicles.

If I was there, I'd rather sit in a Humvee or M113 than in a technical.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You say "our own needs". Who are you referring to? What countries with MRAPs are participating in active warfare right now? Surely somebody could spare a few (hundred)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You don't want to be without caught equipment in a potential war with china

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Right because an Army of tanks in America is super relevant to a war in China

[–] AttackPanda 8 points 1 year ago

So happy to see them walk away and hope they don’t have injuries.