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[–] [email protected] 220 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Flatearthers didn't get enough attention so they talk in circles until people stop interacting with them

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[–] [email protected] 137 points 4 months ago (5 children)

The sole purpose of being a flat earther is to be a very difficult person to deal with, so the content of their little belief system is irrelevant.

They're the sovereign citizens of earth science.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 4 months ago (2 children)

It’s like a form of adult onset oppositional-defiant disorder

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago

Checks DSM. Yep that about sums it up..

Case closed

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

It's opposite day everyday

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

This is so succinct and good, thank you ha

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Not to mention, there are new beliefs now [Dan Olson / Folding Ideas @37m]

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Such a plot twist. Hit hard. Even though it's called out in the video's own description.

I do recommend everyone watch the whole thing from the beginning.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

This is the correct answer.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Sometimes someone says something just the right way. Well done.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

For most of them nothing is real, neither the stars nor the planets, and any mention of those things before modern days was planted by the shadow government or something. Some even think the moon is fake too and the sun is some kind of big light bulb in the sky or whatever.

More than believers, they are deniers, of everything.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 4 months ago (1 children)

My interactions with them point to them not believing those things are real at all, or are not planets, etc.

[–] Zikeji 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I've been told they're a projection put in the sky by God to test our faith lol.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

Why does god need faith demonstrations if he already knows everything?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The one flat earther i know believes the sun and the moon are just spotlights held up from the ceiling of a giant dome.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago

but the dome is round, yeah? :>

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

my brother thinks we live inside the earth and the sky is a projection. not even kidding

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Did he fall asleep watching Gurren Lagann?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There's no consistency to it. It really depends on the individual.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

I think you'll find that flat earthers from all around the globe are in total agreement.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The flat earth conspiracy is just made to make money of dumb people. There is nothing more to it and what ever they believe doesn't matter.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Where's the money to be made? Or are they just easily identifiable targets for sale of essential oils, healing crystals and chiropractor gift cards?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah they pay for these conventions, flat earth merch, flat earth messuring tools, maps and a bunch of other crap.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago

Flat earthers are just nutjobs that don't even agree with each other. There us no point to investigate them.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I think a significant portion of them are taking the piss out of the true believers.

Like out of 100 of them, there are 10 that actually believe, and 90 that are just fucking with them.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Maybe none of them are true believers and they're all just fucking with us.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That's my stance. Best part is, they can never prove to me that they actually believe, I can just outright deny the same way they do about everything.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Your stance brings me joy. I'm adopting it.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm definitely not a Flat Earther, but I watched a documentary about them and a lot of them seem to think the Earth is flat and the sky is like a glass dome, and the other stars and planets are presumably just projected onto the dome somehow? Kind of like this: https://metro.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/flat-earth-1.jpg

As for what's beyond the dome or why nobody's ever encountered the edge of it, I honestly couldn't tell you lol.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

I used to work with a flat earther and this is the description he gave. He was raised Christian and attended a Christian college, so I guess he was never taught much science.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I don't think flat-earthers are capable of indulging in concepts like other planets. They're entire personalities are completely dedicated to indulging in their silly "theories" and insisting that it's important.

For example, have you ever asked a flat earther what possible incentive could there be for "the government" to lie about the shape of the Earth? The only answer they've ever given me is "control", then they get very smug as if this someone proved something and won't really discuss it any further. I don't think they're capable of imagining anything beyond that.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I can't imagine how the shape of our planet can be used to control us. I mean, if the earth was neither round nor flat, but.... I don't know, toroidal. How would that affect our behavior?

Is non-Euclidean geometry more likely to make the population docile?

And why not use the flat earth as a form of control? Since that vision is much more limited than the traditional one, since there is no space, no gravity, no planets, no stars and no cosmos. Just what you can see and nothing more.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

The closest thing to an explanation I've ever gotten was "it's about control of information maaaaaan!!!! Wake up and stop listening to the LIES!"

I chose to end the conversation at that point

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago

Flat Earthers aren't real

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

Aren't all of those just fake images the government displays on the dome LCD covering the world inside ice walls? If they were real they would have dropped out of the sky already.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

As I’ve heard it, they believe that other planets are around because they can be observed. Any observation of the earth being round is a lie.

These people are crazy

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Uses telescope to observe Mars

Yup, that's round.

Is taken up into space to look down at the round Earth

No, it's still flat. The windows are curved to make it look round.

Is taken to Mars with the same telescope and it's pointed at Earth

The glass on the telescope is round, which makes the Earth look round.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I can never tell what they really believe. But I once saw a picture about flat earthers.

It basically said other planets are round because they have been observed to be round. But Earth is flat because it has not been observed to be round.

Though if they did see Earth from afar, I'm sure there would be some excuse as to why it's fake.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

To them photographs are all made with fisheye lenses which is why only the earth looks round and distorted but fucking nothing else in the same frame.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If you're trying to apply reason to the theory, I think you're misunderstanding the theory.

When you dig to the roots of flat earth, it's a "don't trust the secret globalist government feeding you lies" kind of thing (Aka a dog whistle for antisemitism)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Pff Jews aren't even real. The government invented them to control the population.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

"all antisemitic conspiracy theories are deliberately introduced cognitohazards from the illuminati to control the populace" is the best conspiracy theory regarding jewish folk i've ever seen.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

The claim is "Earth isn't a planet", sometimes with the addition of "space isn't real".

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