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[–] [email protected] 58 points 8 months ago (1 children)

ArchLinux's pacman with ILoveCandy option enabled.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Ouu, you have me intrigued! Would you mind sharing a screenshot of what that would look like? Never tried pacman, nor heard of ILoveCandy.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The "C" in the progress bar is alternating between "c" and "C" to give the impression of munching.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

How cute and fun! I love it. Thank you for the screenshot and explanation!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 37 points 8 months ago

TIL EndeavourOS enabled that by default. I always thought it was standard...

[–] [email protected] 40 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Nala (an apt frontend) is the best I've seen so far

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

I second nala, it's pretty enough, text mode of course.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Dnf is nice, rpm-ostree not so much.

Nala is the best by far.

Cargo is also nice.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah seriously, I was surprised at how plain and illegible rpm-ostree felt in comparison to dnf, I really wish they put a little color or some extra separation just to make it feel less cramped and give people more glanceable info.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

I mean someone can create a PR, would likely be highly appreciated.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I use apt-get, I don't care about how "pleasing" the package manager is, I just want it to do its job and get off the way.. But pacman.. I don't know why, but it's so beautiful, charming and cute, how do they do it?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago (1 children)

exactly. They use c and C (uppercase) alternatively, making it look like pacman is eating. hence the beautiful, charming, and cute progress indicator

btw dont think im crazy but ive set max parallel downloads to 200 and when i do a system update, damn that looks so good.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (3 children)

You can have actual Pacman emoji for the progress :)

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

I don't care how visually pleasing it is either, but I often find apt(-get) difficult to read.

For example, a simple thing that zypper does, is that when listing the packages to be installed, it colors the first letter of each package, which makes it a lot easier to scan through the packages.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I really like emerge/portage, even w/out the "candy" feature enabled. Great color highlighting, and verbose messages about any config change(s) needed.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Portage remains to this day my favorite cli. It's nice to look at and provides all the info I want.

It's the one thing I miss from gentoo...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Why miss it? It is still there.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Ohh it's been a long time since I last used gentoo! I remember I used to love the green/blue (I hope my memory isn't failing me) combination everywhere </3.

I stopped using it because building the updates on multiple machines was becoming a pain and had a couple of drives fail, but those were good times!

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Nix with nix-output-monitor (nom). https://github.com/maralorn/nix-output-monitor

It shows the tree of packages to download and to build. It shortens the tree in realtime when packages have finished downloading/building and lengthens the tree when it finds more packages it needs to handle. Very fun and satisfying.

I haven't seen this in other package managers.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Very neat, thanks for sharing!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Debian made me to only love apt and dpkg.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Omg apt is like the worst UI there is.

Have a look at nala! It needs some depencies but is a huge upgrade

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (4 children)

The worst UI?

Clearly you've never used zypper dup

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Ah ah i will one day.

I clearly agree, apt is ugly and even synaptic making it better. But like i said, while ago when I used synaptic I did break my packages and I got to use dpkg and apt, to repair.

Since, I guess, I'm on a PTSD about it and now just use apt or dpkg, when using a Debian or Debian based system.

But I will listen to you, and for sure will give it a try

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Nala is an apt wrapper, it just displays stuff better, automates updates and automatically chooses the fastest mirror (thats the stuff I know)

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

portage is pretty when i dont mess up my USE flags

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I really like the simplicity and formatting of stock pacman. It's not super colorful but it's fast and gives you all of the info you need. yay (or paru if you're a hipster) is the icing on top.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Either flatpak or NixOs for me.

Flatpak is just light and doesn't flood the user with 720710 lines just to say "installing Firefox"

NixOs just straight up has nothing to show.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Fair enough, visually pleasing is subjective, after all. Simplicity can be the best sometimes :=)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

pikaur? I love all the colors, especially the bit where it highlights the differences in major/minor version numbers, so it immediately catches your eye (so you can track major package upgrades). I also like that it should which packages are being pulled in as new dependencies.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

pacman with ILoveCandy

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Package managers are for chumps. Build everything from source and track where you installed it in a single master text file.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You joke, but you should look up Guix

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

The key is to do it manually. Reject modernity. Embrace reinvention of not just the wheel.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

single master text file

Sounds like something you are using to manage your packages to me...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Nah, the trick is to, at random, leave a package out of the text file so the system isn't truly managed and all is chaos!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I like xbps and flatpak

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

If pipx could be called a package manager it would be my most visually pleasing choice. See the video here : https://pipx.pypa.io/stable/

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

I detest the node ecosystem, but I do love watching NPM build packages

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

I don't really know how "visually pleasing" you can get with a terminal package manager tbh. I just have colors and ILoveCandy enabled in pacman and that's more than enough for me, looks pretty to me.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

not exactly the package manager itself, but I have a command that runs whenever I rebuild my NixOS system that shows a nicely formatted list of every added, modified, and removed package.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I still love aptitude TUI even though I don't use Debian anymore.

Next is dnf because it's clear with obvious subcommands.

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