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Yes, I know browser bookmarks exist. But there must be some native functionality that I keep just not noticing - right?

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Kbin doesn't currently support saving.
I bookmark things for now on my local browser. Afaik, the feature is in the to do list so I'll save what I can from from the bookmarks manually once that's done.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If you upvote a post it will put it in your Favorites. You can access favorites by hovering over the hamburger menu just to the left of your username in the top right corner. To upvote without putting it in your favorites, you can use boost instead. This is essentially how you save posts on kbin.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yes but on reddit, upvotes puts something in your upvoted list and you can save selectively, which is a much better system for organization.

Boosts and upvotes have a slightly different functionality here that I do upvote and/or boost posts and comments differently, none of which is to add the post to my favorites. Even though it can be used that way for the same effect, it's a different use case.

What if I want to save a post I didn't want to boost or favorite? Should I not be able to save a comment I disagree with that I also downvoted?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

That's a fair point that I didn't consider - saving something you've downvoted. It's not something I've ever done and it didn't even cross my mind. You're right that there isn't a specific save function, and the Favorites feature is limited in this case. Also the boosts button in my profile is broken (gives me an error) so I can't keep track of what I've boosted, currently.

Having a separate space that isn't tied to either of this would be more ideal. I've mostly been using upvotes sparingly, and boosts more liberally, in order to keep my Favorites clean. I understand boosting ties a thread publicly to my username so there may be things you'd want to upvote but not have associated with you to the general public, but in that case your Favorites would get messy.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I just upvote/like the content, then it comes up on my profile. Same with boosts, comments, etc.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I know it's not the best answer ever, but fyi we do have this on Lemmy so if it's a super important feature to you there's always that option.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

No worries, it's a valid suggestion!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

wait, what does the boost do?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Boost is not the same. A boost is like a retweet. It's public and anyone following you will see it in their feed.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

While that's true it still works as a sort of save button since you can see all the comments and posts you boosted easily in your profile, just as if you'd saved them. If you don't have any followers (or you don't mind sharing content you want to save with your followers) using the boost button as a work around until we get a save feature isn't a bad idea.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

FWIW, Boosting does more than pushing posts out to followers. It also re-sends it to the community group actor, which sends it out again to everyone subscribed.

You know how you can't see content on remote communities from before someone on your instance subscribed to it? Well, boosting content makes it "new" again, allowing newer subscribers to see older posts and comments.

This is why upvotes were mapped to boosts, not favourites, on kbin originally. To help with content propagation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Additionally, my understanding from another discussion is that, right now, Boost will affect the reputation score of the Boosted author's account, while upvote will not. So there's that to consider also.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That shouldn't be on anyone's mind, really. Except ernest's. He's aware of the issue, and will rectify it sooner or later, but currently reputation doesn't do anything.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Fair enough. There was a comment elsewhere in this discussion about not wanting to upvote or boost something they disagree with, and you probably wouldn't want to increase the reputation of somebody you disagree with, regardless of if it actually having any meaning. But you probably also wouldn't want to publicly boost or upvote in that case anyway, just to save a comment/article either.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yep, I really just wanted to point out that it's public, for those that aren't aware.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

The way I've been using them:

  • Upvote: "I think that this is a good, useful comment in the context of this discussion"

  • Boost: "Holy cow, more people should hear about this in the broader world"

Not sure that that's right, but seems reasonable.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

@runningfromreddit I think this functionality may be missing right now. I've been boosting everything that I find save-worthy. I can see everything I've boosted from my profile.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I just upvote/like the content, then it comes up on my profile. Same with boosts, comments, etc.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've been searching for this functionality on kbin as well, but I don't think it's implemented yet. JustinFTL's recommendation to boost stuff is not private, while usually the saved items are.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Upvoting isn't private either, you can scroll to the bottom of any post on kbin and see a list of everyone who has "favourited" a post. All of your own also get collected to https://kbin.social/fav

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Upvoting can't be private (how would you know what others have upvoted), but saving should be private.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Serverside not the way it's implemented I'd imagine, no, but there is no need to have it displayed so prominently on the UI for the users - it isn't on Lemmy for example.

Though it's more understandable if you think of the implemention more like Twitter/Mastodon likes rather than Reddit upvotes, but as a Reddit refugee, it just feels weird to me personally.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This is likely unintentional. Kbin used to have a separate favorite button and no boost button, when you did an upvote it logged it as a boost. When it Federated with Lemmy this meant upvotes from Kbin went nowhere, and Lemmy upvotes showed as favorites. They changed the behavior and swapped them in Kbin but maybe forgot to change over (or remove) the public “favorites”.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

My rudimentary solution is to share the page to Raindrop.io.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I use the Joblin webclipper to send it to my notes. There is no bookmarks or saving on the websites yet. You could copy the URL (below every comment "more"...), and then paste it into Mastodon and bookmark it there. I prefer all my bookmarks and notes in Joplin though.

Added: example - adding the "more" URL to Fediverse into the search of my Mastodon app and bookmarking it

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

A man after my own heart - Joplin is my weapon of choice too so I save pretty much everything into Joplin

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dunno which operating sys you are using but using Lemmy with Jerboa app (android) I can bookmark posts and comments.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I'm just accessing via desktop browser. I'll check the apps though thank you!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I use Jerboa but I have 🔖 looking button underneath each post and comment that I can click to save and on the browser (at least for lemmy.one) it's a ⭐ symbol

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

@runningfromreddit I know that it is not intended for it... but I boost it. Usually they deserve the boost then it is not a big issue.

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