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[–] [email protected] 100 points 8 months ago (2 children)

But then how do u type a capital D hmm???

[–] [email protected] 91 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You need a different model of Chromebook for that.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 8 months ago (2 children)

That sounds expensive. Can't you just have a friend with a capital D keyboard email one to you?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 8 months ago

How would they email a chromebook? That makes no sense.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

That's piracy and it's illegal!

[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago (5 children)

You jest, but honestly I think this does make sense. It seems rather obvious to me in hindsight that the character on screen should match the key pressed, and to get a different character should require an activator such as shift or caps lock.

One of those, "If I wasn't already used to it being the way it is, would I find doing it this way to be better?"

[–] [email protected] 24 points 8 months ago (1 children)

But its not in the font I'm typing in. What bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You could always get a keyboard like this. It's a large LCD screen with transparent keys on top, so you can program each key to display whatever you want- keys change between lower and upper case when you press shift, for example, or have the font displayed on each key be whatever you want.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I was sooo close to purchasing one of those (Optimus Maximus), but realized that it would be too dependent on software from a minor actor, so I decided to wait a few years until the functionality got standard on all keyboards.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago

I'm pretty sure letters are capital by default because capitals are easier to read

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

I'll hold by breath for them to switch the default keyboard to Dvorak

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Now that I think about it, given that lower case is the default option for typing, it would make more sense for the letters to be lower case.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

I feels like, while it makes sense, but the "sense" here is sorta nonsense, the way they write the header sorta assume people is incapable of learning and adjust. Even my nephew/niece learn it without issue.

[–] [email protected] 81 points 8 months ago (4 children)

If you asked me, before this, if my keys were capital or lowercase, I don’t think I could have told you.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago

It's such a non-issue, also having larger and more defined characters on the keycaps also helps people with poor eyesight and the older population.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

I looked at my keyboard after reading it because I had to check.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

I had to Google ‘MacBook keyboard’ to work it out lol

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[–] [email protected] 79 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It took me way too long to realise the keys on my keyboard are uppercase. Is this really something people worry about? What happens when I want a capital letter, do I need a different Google keyboard?!

I'm sure someone somewhere is happy with themselves.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

I have used a keyboard that had uppercase and lowercase on the keys, similar to how the number row looks with its shift-for-punctuation. It was harder to read, so I didn't like it very much.

On most on screen keyboards, the casing changes as you type for things like the first letter. It's a good way to indicate that in a UI, but it's only necessary because the screen keyboard is trying to change the casing for you. All physical keyboards I've used type the same thing when you push a button, regardless of the context.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I feel drunk reading this. I genuinely can't even make sense of what they're trying to say here.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I imagine this makes perfect sense to people who are not tech savy, which is the primary demographic for selling a laptop that's basically an iPad.

Then again, I know 94-year olds capable of grasping the concept of SHIFT and CAPS LOCK. So yeah, drunk marketing statements dreamed up by the utterly deranged.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago

Shift came from typewriters. It literally shifted the mechanism over so the keys would trigger a different set of hammers.

And the first typewriter came out in 1868. So this was already old tech by the time that 94 year old was born.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago

I would sincerely hope this is satire

[–] [email protected] 49 points 8 months ago (1 children)

How come when I press the key with an “up arrow” on it that symbol doesn’t appear on screen?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Or when I press space space doesn’t appear on my screen where are the stars sundar where are the stars 🌟

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Or when I press tab I don't get a discontinued diet soda?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

No time for that now, the computer's starting!

[–] [email protected] 46 points 8 months ago (3 children)

If they really wanted to innovate like this, why not have LED key caps that change from lowercase to uppercase when the shift key is pressed? Much cooler than just lowercase caps printed on the keys by default.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 8 months ago

Very cool, and much more expensive than printed keys. Would be neat if they offered one model like that. I still wouldn't buy it but I'd sure talk about how neat it is.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Wow it's been a while since https://www.artlebedev.com/optimus was proposed - didn't their prototype get quite hot?

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Some UX guy is sitting really proudly somewhere, glad his work was featured in the google blog

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Just reminded me of the Optimus Maximus keyboard. Dreamed of having one when it was announced.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optimus_Maximus_keyboard

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

So cool, the possibilities are endless for something like that. I'd love to see something similar actually make it into production.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I knew google was retarded but wtf. Was anyone actually proud about this?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Also the phrasing is so clunky and awkward I had to read it a good three or four times before I worked out what the fuck they were talking about. Initially I thought they were claiming the letters on the keyboard changed between lower and upper case depending on whether shift or caps was depressed. Obviously not, I don’t even know how you’d do that. Written by ‘ai’ perhaps ?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

Get used to it, AI is cheap and almost good enough. Lots of unemployed people incoming.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 8 months ago

What happens when AI replaces the marketing department.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Imagine the keys would become capital when pressing the shift key

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I once saw advertised a keyboard that had little screens in each of the keycaps. This was over ten years ago. I haven't seen it tried since.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

That would be the Optimus keyboard. I heard it's really prone to failing.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

Finalmouse and Flux keyboards are in the works.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Someone suggested that to me because I use Dvorak. Checked it out. I'm not paying over a grand for a keyboard, and when I checked the reviews, once you get past the gimmick, it's not really a very good keyboard anyway.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Would dvorak be an excuse for one of those legendless keyboards?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago

If you hammer nails into your head it will hurt like a bitch. But Chromebooks are different - we will also murder a puppy.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

Ha, the ß on my keyboard is lowercase.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

I press "esc" but nothing happened. 0/10 literally unusable.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

I BLAME THE APPLE ][ FOR THIS DESIGN BEHAVIOR.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

My board has this problem :(
My keycaps are blank. Lol

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