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[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Both parties in the US are liberal.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 months ago

They used to be, but the current Republican party explicitly rejects liberalism. They don't follow any liberal ideas, even on capitalism and free markets. They're willing to bend any principle for power. They're fascists.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Look up "liberalism", before you ridicule yourself in front of everyone.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago (1 children)

"Relating to or denoting a political and social philosophy that promotes individual rights, civil liberties, democracy, and free enterprise." How the fuck does that describe the GOP?? I mean yeah I get the argument relative to economics, but on the civil rights side of things no.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They do advocate for all of these things for white christians.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah... Liberals can be racists, you know?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Oh I completely agree with you, I'm a more libertarian kind of socialist myself so I definitely don't think liberalism is the answer. I also think that's is disingenuous, and really discrediting to leftists as a whole, when people try to say that the GOP is liberal. They're definitely not; on almost any social issue they are firmly opposed to the liberal position on civil rights, freedom of association, etc etc.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, they did turn into fascists in the last few decades... As liberals tend to do.

But yeah, I was a bit facecious with someone who probably didn't really know their politics too well. You got me.

Username checks out, btw. 🖤❤️

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Solidarity forever! 🌹

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I think it's disingenuous to leftists to call liberals leftist. Liberals are right wing and always have been.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

I didn't mean to imply that liberals are leftists, but rather that the GOP isn't liberal other than economically.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on the rights of the individual, liberty, [consent of the governed, political equality, right to private property and equality before the law.

Wikipedia agrees with me

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

It's a United States thing. They use the term liberal to refer to social liberalism whereas you're referring to neoliberalism.

Edit: On second glance, your Wikipedia link is to straight liberalism, which includes things the Republican party doesn't support, like secularism. So who knows.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

Originally, america was secular. Then the 1950s happened.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

which includes things the Republican party doesn't support, like secularism.

Yeah, saw that, too. They are still liberals (as in: support neoliberal policies), but with christo-fascist tendencies. The article states that these points are contended right dow, though.