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[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Something like Linux Mint is very easy to use and doesn't require much maintenance. You don't need to reformat every year or two either when Windows inevitably shits itself.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I use arch btw

Linux mint shares all the flaws that are common to every Linux distro

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

My point is Linux doesn't have to be hard to use. You are going out of your way and making things difficult when using something like Arch Linux.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I'm not undermining your point in the first sentence, I was just saying that I use arch, btw

Linux mint shares a few ubuntu bugs, and even if you use LMDE someone like a child cannot understand the essence of linux in a controlled environment.

I'll repeat. You cannot teach linux in a controlled environment to a child.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I've heard of cases where parents are putting kids in front of linux recently!

They are windows illiterate i think is what the kids posted.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's nice to hear.

But that's not necessarily a controlled environment.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You can create controlled Linux environments fairly easily. Heck just disabling root access gets you half way there.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That's not what I mean.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Then what do you mean?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yes you can! What do you think a Chromebook is or an Android tablet. Modern Linux is quite easy to use, in some areas easier than modern Windows. This is especially true if you have the kind of children who get viruses all the time.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Oh awesome. Leave it to lemmy to be pedantic.

I obviously meant normal linux distros when I referred to linux. Not chromebooks or android.

Also, using those is in no way the same as learning linux. In a chrome book you'll just be using a browser. In a phone, all the apps are locked down and you have no access to cli.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I never said the objective was to learn Linux. The objective is to use it.

You can get terminal access on a smartphone. I can give you a screenshot or two if you like. You can also run Linux apps on ChromeOS now. It leverages containers from my understanding, a technology baked into the modern Linux kernel.

No it's not pedantic you are using a true scotsman fallacy. That being said I don't think using Linux Mint is any harder than using and maintaining Windows especially if you don't have existing knowledge of either. macOS is easier to use than either Linux Mint or Windows.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I never said the objective was to learn Linux. The objective is to use it.

Well you were replying to a comment of mine where the topic was teaching children linux.

You can get terminal access on a smartphone.

A child will never bother doing that.

You can also run Linux apps on ChromeOS now. It leverages containers from my understanding, a technology baked into the modern Linux kernel.

Yeah, I never said it couldn't.

No it’s not pedantic you are using a true scotsman fallacy.

It's not a true scotsman fallacy when neither chromeos nor android actively & openly advertise themselves as "Linux". Yes, they are linux and that has been acknowledged, but not advertised.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Is your bar seriously advertising? The mental gymnastics going on here is crazy. Yes it's a true scotsman fallacy. It doesn't matter if someone born in Scotland calls themselves Scottish or not, legally speaking they are still Scottish. That's how that works.

A child might not bother with the terminal on Linux Mint either. Does that mean Linux Mint isn't a real Linux now?

You also severely underestimate what children are capable of. I installed my first Linux distro, and taught myself HTML and CSS while still in primary school. I don't think you have any idea what children can do. I could probably outclass most adults with technology when I was 16 or so.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

You also severely underestimate what children are capable of. I installed my first Linux distro, and taught myself HTML and CSS while still in primary school. I don’t think you have any idea what children can do. I could probably outclass most adults with technology when I was 16 or so.

Um, I started using linux on my own when I was 9-10ish years old. I know perfectly what a child is capable of. But an average child will not do that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

thanks you for not forcing people to use arch, now I don't have to shit on it for a milliont time