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[–] [email protected] 146 points 9 months ago (8 children)

Can someone tell me where all the trans FOSS devs/enthusiasts hang out IRL, I need friends πŸ₯Ί

~Signed, a lonely trans FOSS enthusiast (not a programmer sadly, maybe I just need thigh high socks...)

[–] [email protected] 234 points 9 months ago (1 children)

FOSS devs/enthusiasts

hang out IRL

[–] [email protected] 98 points 9 months ago

I'm laughing but it hurts 😭

[–] [email protected] 62 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Highly recommend picking up programming.

  1. Many communities are very welcoming.

  2. Worse case scenario, you end up loving programming and making it in a career and making a lot of money.

Best case scenario, you contribute to open source.

  1. There's lots of sources out there to get started. Best part, lots of online communities too.
[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago (5 children)

I am too dumb brain for programming :(

I've tried a few times in the past to get into it but I just get overwhelmed. I'm frankly amazed by and so thankful for all the programmers who contribute to all of the great libre software I use. I am stuck at the level of knowing more about computers than essentially everyone I know or encounter, while simultaneously being a complete and utter noob to anyone who actually understands computing. I just know how to use search engines and follow instructions written by people smarter than me.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago

Don't discount yourself. I'm dumb as shit. There's a lot of dumb programmers. We just know a handful of things and kept beating our heads at it until suddenly, it works.

Keep picking up things every year and after a few years, suddenly you know more than others and they keep promoting you.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

I just know how to use search engines and follow instructions written by people smarter than me.

99% of being a programmer is knowing what to Google, so you're halfway there.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

Everyone is overwhelmed when learning to program or even learning a new framework. This is normal. We just do our best to ignore that feeling and keep going. You will often fail and sometimes spend hours wondering why something doesn't work. But eventually it will become easier and you will be able to make cool things. Python and JavaScript are good languages for beginners (but choose one).

If you would like to contribute to Libre Software, there are other ways you can do it too. You can join some chat rooms for a specific project and help people when they have issues. You can help to document things or help translate stuff.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

It's a lot of abstraction to ingest, keep exposing yourself to deeper topics until it becomes natural.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Learn with the help of LMMs (AI chatbots), it’s awesome, just let it generate some code, read it, understand it, and try make the code better, more beautiful and/or more efficient. Add some feature you miss in the code, don’t hesitate to ask your LMMs follow up question, it won’t laugh at stupid questions, it is just great.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

However, do keep in mind that LLMs regularly pull language an library features out of their asses that have no direct correspondent in practice. I'd use the LLMs to generate small snippets of code, giving them a small and restricted set of requirements to minimize hallucinations.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Yea, encountered that as well (depending on LLM model). Mostly, it is enough to just feed the exception output back into the LLM thread and it will Fix it’s bugs, or at least can tell you why this exception normally occurs.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

making a lot of money

Am career programmer, where money?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Move to Silicon Valley or get hired by a Silicon Valley company that allows remote work.

[–] lambda 1 points 9 months ago

Hey, you can get lucky too!!

[–] [email protected] 27 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Trans dev here, I hear that hacker spaces aren't bad places to look. I wouldn't know though, too shy to actually show up -.-

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Depends on the culture of the space. For cis white males, no problem. Anyone outside that description, though, you might have to hunt to find one that's welcoming.

The makerspace I helped get off the ground is far from perfect, but we try. It was started in the first place because the existing makerspace in town was very much not welcoming to people outside of cis white males. Around 25% of our membership identifies as not male (which is really high for a makerspace, but we can do better). A super majority of the current board is also non-male identifying.

Even there, we're still pretty white.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago

Hey! I'm a trans FOSS enthusiast studying computer science and I hope to be a FOSS dev sometime in the future.

I stay inside pretty much all day. In terms of hanging out irl, the closest I do is vc lol. It actually would be nice to hang out with someone irl though.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Ironically many are enlisted in the military so they can use the subsidized health care and mental health support that's provided free for being a veteran.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 9 months ago

Thank the fucking lord I don't live in such a dystopian country (although our Conservative Party wants to drag us down to that level and are projected to win the next elections...)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don't think voluntarily joining an org that makes you need mental assistance and mental health support is a great plan. Plus there's the whole "contributing to the crimes of American foreign policy" thing. idk couldn't be me

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Who said anything about American military?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

If you’re in South Asia, we can hang out I guess

[–] lambda 5 points 9 months ago

Can someone tell me where all the trans FOSS devs/enthusiasts hang out

IRC

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

You could consider attending the next Chaos Communication Congress. Met lots of great people there