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Is there something you lack in Wayland but have in xorg? (lemmy.world)

submitted 10 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (27 children)

Like, everything?

Guake doesn't work, gnome-screenshot doesn't work, Plank doesn't work...

Most GUI utilities that integrate into the OS of some kind require drawing over apps. It's absurd that Wayland doesn't support this properly for uhhh no reason other than vague claims of improved security and process isolation. If someone's into your system with such a degree of access it's all over anyway.

If I'm not using Gnome, then I'll be using i3 and then I honestly could care less which one, I'll just be using the most compatible one which I think is just xorg. Plasma just sucks I'm so sorry, it's messy.

And I'm sorry but there's no serious work you can do with an AMD GPU either. I wish it wasn't like this but it is, no CUDA no joy.

Wayland is DOA and will never replace Xorg. Deal with it.

[–] brian 14 points 10 months ago (24 children)

This is just misinformed.

Sure your favorite apps may not use it, but Wayland does provide protocols for drawing things over other apps. https://wayland.app/protocols/wlr-layer-shell-unstable-v1

I never used guake with i3 since scratchpads exist and are the general solution, and sway works fine there.

and there's plenty of screenshot apps that work. I haven't tried gnome-screenshot, but I find it hard to believe that it or some alternative gnome one doesn't work given the effort the project has put into Wayland

nvidia support isn't great but it is getting better. I haven't bought nvidia in forever but I know plasma and gnome both say they have support for Wayland on nvidia now.

For gaming amd is great, for real work I'd just rent time on some cloud service lol. If I'm that worried about performance my one consumer gpu isn't going to make a dent either

[–] [email protected] -2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

So no apps worth mentioning work, and only gaming (which doesn't work on Linux) is benefitted? Sway is dead and most of those other replacements are just worse. Yeah DOA like I said.

[–] brian 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

have you seen steam deck sales? linux gaming is mainstream. everything I've tried recently just works.

When would you think sway is dead lol? it has way more commits than i3, same number of contributors, and the last commit was 7 minutes ago. i3 hasn't been touched in months. i3 is dead, contributors have jumped to sway

also, even if you aren't using scratchpads over guake, guake runs on Wayland. https://github.com/Guake/guake/issues/1934

idk why all the people against Wayland are so clueless lol, it feels intentionally ignorant at this point

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

i3wm is a 15 year old feature complete window manager not a JavaScript framework. It isn't dead if it hasn't had a new release this month.

The last commit was 4 days ago the last release 4 months or so ago. It has again seen continuous development for 15 years.

[–] brian 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)