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A mother and her 14-year-old daughter are advocating for better protections for victims after AI-generated nude images of the teen and other female classmates were circulated at a high school in New Jersey.

Meanwhile, on the other side of the country, officials are investigating an incident involving a teenage boy who allegedly used artificial intelligence to create and distribute similar images of other students – also teen girls - that attend a high school in suburban Seattle, Washington.

The disturbing cases have put a spotlight yet again on explicit AI-generated material that overwhelmingly harms women and children and is booming online at an unprecedented rate. According to an analysis by independent researcher Genevieve Oh that was shared with The Associated Press, more than 143,000 new deepfake videos were posted online this year, which surpasses every other year combined.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Right, there are plenty of reactive measures available but the only proactive measures are either restricting availability of the source photos used or restricting use of the deep fake tools used. Everything beyond that is trying to put the genie back in the bottle.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 11 months ago (1 children)

At some point, communities and social circles need to be able to moderate themselves.

Disseminating nudes of peers should be grounds for ostracizing, but it really depends on the quality of people around you.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That doesn't work. It's nothing but an inconvenience to not talk to your neighbors or those around you. They'd just get even worse and make even worse friends online.

Ostracization doesn't work. Ever. Period. If they're bad enough, banishment works. Ostracization is just literally ignoring the problem.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Ostracization doesn’t work. Ever. Period. If they’re bad enough, banishment works. Ostracization is just literally ignoring the problem.

That's just wrong. Unless you're hanging around shitty people, ignoring the bad ones by definition works.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

A lot of social circles are dominated by either shitty people or by people too insecure to take a confronting attitude towards those shitty people.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It works for you. It doesn't work on a societal level.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, it does. It's literally how most friend groups keep undesirables from hanging out with them.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Your friend group is not a sufficient model for all friend groups. They're a fundamentally different set. All sets are not the same as the other, and taken as a whole it is fundamentally different than any individual group. I'm talking about all groups. Not your group.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I know. I've also said that "if the microcosm is so shitty that it doesn’t ostracize people who disseminate nudes, then the people in it deserve to suffer until they improve [or leave.]"

Not everyone is worth hanging around. I know it's difficult to be alone and most people would rather have shitty 'friends' than be alone, but that doesn't mean they won't suffer from being around shitty people.

I think the answer is to take the power away from shitbags by avoiding them. The more people who do this, the less influence shitbags have.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

You seem to assume I'm taking the position of being polite to terrible people. Quite the opposite.

[–] MagicShel 31 points 11 months ago

It's not possible to restrict deep fake technology at this point. It's out there. Accessible to everyone who wants it and has a computer at home.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Both of those options seem impossible in practice.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

And that's the point I was making, nobody can be "protected" from widely available photos being used on widely available programs. Best we can do is deter but that isn't a guarantee.