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We are digital librarians. Among us are represented the various reasons to keep data -- legal requirements, competitive requirements, uncertainty of permanence of cloud services, distaste for transmitting your data externally (e.g. government or corporate espionage), cultural and familial archivists, internet collapse preppers, and people who do it themselves so they're sure it's done right. Everyone has their reasons for curating the data they have decided to keep (either forever or For A Damn Long Time (tm) ). Along the way we have sought out like-minded individuals to exchange strategies, war stories, and cautionary tales of failures.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

These remind me of the discussions around year 2000 on photo.net about how digital pictures are useless and how bad is digital compared with film:

  • you can see the pictures directly on the film
  • you can buy film at the corner store and have "infinite memory", it's much cheaper too (they didn't count that you'd reuse the flash and take more pictures than you could ever afford all your life on film!)
  • you can print the film and make paper pictures in 1h mostly everywhere
  • you could share these with your parents or send them via snail mail and so on
  • prints and film last for centuries or so and people have this or that old picture but lost their Word document they were working on last week

We know how that ended, and film cameras ended being mainstream WELL before phone cameras started to be any good.

In a move that mirrors the current situation with flash only two categories were left with film:

  • power users that weren't satisfied with the resolution that you could get from digital cameras at first (as now we have DHers who can't go to SSDs because of the size they need)
  • "lost in time" users that didn't know things moved on and picked up their film camera for vacation, like we have every now and then someone asking about 500GB or 1TB spinning rust
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

A lot of stories like this. Like for example display tech and how LCD screens were received initially.

But there also are examples of failures, things which never became what they were predicted to.

Like blueray, which became a niche product at best, instead of replacing CD/DVD.

Or attempts at large removable magnetic disks, like ZIP drives.

It is impossible to predict how things will go, may be some new storage tech which is not vaporware finally happens and makes flash obsolete before it can replace HDDs...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

15+ years of SSD technology and every optimistic fool has been proven wrong about "HDDs becoming obsolete".

Your analogies are worthless, because you're referencing changes in technology that happened over a span of a few years only. You can't compare it to the SSD situation where it's been 15+ years and still no sight of this technology surpassing old technology.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Remind me just about when the last supported Windows 10 version goes out of support. If you look outside our echo chamber already spinning rust is niche technology.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

"He proved me wrong! I must deflect in order to steer the conversation in a different direction!"