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Sure, if they are meaningfully compelling, but if you just have some guy saying, "It's my tradition," it's hardly compelling. Saying something is tradition is an argument which Americans have seen for a long time as a defense of racist stuff, especially systemic and institutional racism.
Agreed, but that's also why I included examples of black people from other countries giving their opinions. The Afrofeminas article talks at length about it, I had to have the page translated into English so my quote may not be 100% accurate.
Here is another article (https://english.elpais.com/elpais/2017/12/18/trans_iberian/1513600440_342120.html)
Here is an article talking about everyday racism faced by black Spaniards (https://english.elpais.com/elpais/2017/01/11/inenglish/1484151919_267996.html)
I spoke about this earlier, you're literally making the same argument that racists in the US have been making for over 100 years. Just because some black people don't think it's racist doesn't suddenly make it not offensive.
It's like if you said that a black person said it was ok to use the N-word so it must not be racist?
I would argue that racism has been a more central subject in the US in the last 100 years, but a quick study will show that discrimination has been a major part of European history. Whether discriminating against Romani persons, Jewish persons, Sub-Saharan African persons, Muslims, and more. Hell, the American colonists literally brought it over from Europe, we learned it from Europe.
There is a whole Wikipedia article talking about the history of racism in Europe and it's not as old and forgotten as you might think (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_Europe).
EDIT: I would also add that we have already established that there is a higher percentage of black people in the US than in Europe. Another article I included cites the opinion of black Europeans that they can't speak out about racism because they are so little represented. So it's not that Europe isn't as racist as the US, but very possible that it just doesn't get spoken about as much.